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Ketchup in the UK

The 'Cider and Beer' thread above got me looking at a site with traditional English recipes.
I noticed that for a 'Traditional English Breakfast', tomato ketchup is recommended as a condiment.
Firstly, is ketchup idiom in the UK? (News to me if it is).

Secondly, are there types of ketchup other than tomato?

Thirdly, how does UK ketchup differ from US ketchup? (I'm suspecting its in the texture and sugar level).
Here in OZ, a sauce made from tomato is by convention called tomato sauce, or oftenly, sauce. Ketchup is also available at the supermarket (among other brands, Heinz IIRC, which also makes tomato sauce) but I've never bought it and compared it with tomato sauce.

Some time ago in the US, I ordered a hot dog with tomato sauce. No questions were asked, and I was served a hot dog topped with chopped tomato.

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[nq:1]The 'Cider and Beer' thread above got me looking at a site with traditional English recipes. I noticed that for a 'Traditional English Breakfast', tomato ketchup is recommended as a condiment. Firstly, is ketchup idiom in the UK?

  • [nq:1]The 'Cider and Beer' thread above got me looking at a site with traditional English recipes.
  • I noticed that for a 'Traditional English Breakfast', tomato ketchup is recommended as a condiment.
  • Firstly, is ketchup idiom in the UK?
  • [/nq] Yes (if I parse your question correct).
  • [/nq] I don't think so.
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[nq:1]The 'Cider and Beer' thread above got me looking at a site with traditional English recipes. I noticed that for a 'Traditional English Breakfast', tomato ketchup is recommended as a condiment. Firstly, is ketchup idiom in the UK? (News to me if it is).[/nq]
Yes (if I parse your question correct).
[nq:1]Secondly, are there types of ketchup other than tomato?[/nq]
I don't think so.
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[nq:1]The 'Cider and Beer' thread above got me looking at a site with traditional English recipes. I noticed that for a 'Traditional English Breakfast', tomato ketchup is recommended as a condiment.[/nq]
Hmm. A slice of fried tomato is nearly always seen in a 'Traditional Irish Breakfast', but I've never seen anyone put ketchup on anything but the chips if they are part of it, which they seldo
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[nq:2]Secondly, are there types of ketchup other than tomato?[/nq]
[nq:1]I don't think so.[/nq]
I seem to recall having heard of mushroom ketchup.

Yes, here we are - Google offers 529 results, including this recipe from Mrs Beeton:
http://thefoody.com/mrsbpreserve/mketc
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[nq:1]Secondly, are there types of ketchup other than tomato?[/nq]
The Ketchup man travels the world so you don't have to.

http://www.ketchupworld.com/ketchupnews.html

John Dean
Oxford
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[nq:1]Firstly, is ketchup idiom in the UK? (News to me if it is). Secondly, are there types of ketchup other ... other brands, Heinz IIRC, which also makes tomato sauce) but I've never bought it and compared it with tomato sauce.[/nq]
The word originates in South Asia (e.g. Malay kechap) meaning a spicy sauce, not originally made with tomatos since tomatos were not grown there in the 19th cent
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[nq:2]I don't think so.[/nq]
[nq:1]I seem to recall having heard of mushroom ketchup. Yes, here we are - Google offers 529 results, including this recipe from Mrs Beeton: http://thefoody.com/mrsbpreserve/mketchup.html "Choose fully grown mushrooms and take care they are freshly g
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[nq:1]Firstly, is ketchup idiom in the UK? (News to me if it is).[/nq]
When we were in England in the late seventies, we dined very informally with an English family in Slough. There was a bottle of American ketchup on the table, of course clearly labeled "Ketchup". When the English people wanted some, they said "Please pass the sauce".
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To an American, tomato sauce means either a sort of thin puree of tomato put up in cans by a large food-processing company and generally used as an ingredient in cooking or in preparing more elaborate sauces rather than as something eaten just as it comes out of the can, or some version of Italian marinara, sauce bolognese, commercial spaghetti sauce that comes in from the supermarket and may or m
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[nq:1]The one thing that "tomato sauce" never means in AmE is a tomato ketchup, and it is very disorienting to American ears to hear Brits refer to ketchup as "tomato sauce". What, we wonder, do they call actual (=BrE proper) tomato sauce?[/nq]
Spaghetti sauce, or pizza sauce, or even, tomato sauce.
[nq:1]This is almost, but not quite, as disorienting as being asked if you want salad on yo
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[nq:2]I don't think so.[/nq]
[nq:1]I seem to recall having heard of mushroom ketchup. Yes, here we are - Google offers 529 results, including this recipe from Mrs Beeton: http://thefoody.com/mrsbpreserve/mketchup.html "Choose fully grown mushrooms and take care they are freshly g

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