Jane is the most beautiful girl in the world whom I like.

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What do you think about it?Is this sentence good ?I know that the sentence subjective relative pronoun isn't put on just after the precedent is traditional and poetic like "He laughs best who laughs last ". Then, What about objective relative pronoun ??

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[nq:1]What do you think about it? Is this sentence good ? I know that the sentence subjective relative pronoun isn't put on just after the precedent is traditional and poetic like "He laughs best who laughs last ". Then, What about objective relative pronoun ??[/nq]
Learn to write one simple English sentence correctly just one then get back to us on things that "function as subject structurally".

"A is for Articles" might be a good place to start.

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Liz wrote on 11 May 2004:
[nq:1]What do you think about it?[/nq]
I would try not to think about it, if I were you.
[nq:1]Is this sentence good?[/nq]
Good for nothing, I'd say. No, it's bad, bad, bad.
[nq:1]I know that the sentence subjective relative pronoun isn't put on just after the precedent is traditional and poetic like "He laughs best who laughs last". Then, What about objective relative pronoun?[/nq]
Would you care to rephrase that in clear, simple English? As you are unable to clearly express what you claim to know, I would have to say that you don't know what you are babbling about here.

"Jane, whom I like, is the most beautiful girl in the world." This one is grammatically correct but unusable in 99.99E% of the cases anyone would want to use something like it. It would be correct on a formal English grammar test, though.

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[nq:2]What do you think about it? Is this sentence good ... laughs last ". Then, What about objective relative pronoun ??[/nq]
[nq:1]Learn to write one simple English sentence correctly just one then get back to us on things that "function as subject structurally". "A is for Articles" might be a good place to start.[/nq]
Perhaps it was done with the best intentions, but why did you quote uncredited as new rather than quoted text two paragraphs of a post that I made in another thread entirely in response to someone else entirely?

Ross Howard

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[nq:2]Learn to write one simple English sentence correctly just ... is for Articles" might be a good place to start.[/nq]
[nq:1]Perhaps it was done with the best intentions, but why did you quote uncredited as new rather than quoted text two paragraphs of a post that I made in another thread entirely in response to someone else entirely?[/nq]
Yes, I thought there was a strange echo in here...

Besides, the original post has several perfectly correct sentences in it.

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[nq:1]Liz wrote on 11 May 2004:[/nq]
Okay. "I know relative pronouns in the subjective case are normally placed just after their antecedents, but may be placed elsewhere in traditional or poetic expressions such as 'He laughs best who laughs last.' Now I wonder whether a similar rule applies to relative pronouns in the objective case. For example, 'Jane is the most beautiful girl in the world whom I like.'" Is that a good sentence?
[nq:1]As you are unable to clearly express what you claim to know, I would have to say that you don't know what you are babbling about here.[/nq]
Come on, she may be able to express it fine in her native language.
[nq:1]"Jane, whom I like, is the most beautiful girl in the world." This one is grammatically correct but unusable in 99.99E% of the cases anyone would want to use something like it. It would be correct on a formal English grammar test, though.[/nq]
And on such a test, "Jane is the most beautiful girl in the world whom I like." would mean "Of all the girls in the world whom I like, Jane is the most beautiful." It doesn't strike me as very idiomatic, though, mostly because of the "whom", which as you say doesn't go with the informal tone.

Jerry Friedman

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Jerry Friedman wrote on 12 May 2004:

Which merely demonstrates the extent of her*, and not *your, lack of understanding of English.
[nq:2]"Jane, whom I like, is the most beautiful girl in ... would be correct on a formal English grammar test, though.[/nq]
[nq:1]And on such a test, "Jane is the most beautiful girl in the world whom I like." would mean "Of all the girls in the world whom I like, Jane is the most beautiful."[/nq]
What it is intended to mean is clear enough, but it is not English, IMHO.
[nq:1]It doesn't strike me as very idiomatic, though,[/nq]
The "very" is quite unnecessary there. It's not idiomatic English by anyone's standards, I would say; it's butchered English.
[nq:1]mostly because of the "whom",[/nq]
If the sentence were in proper order, I'd agree with this, but the word order is alien and is much more problematic than the use of "whom" here. Given the proper structure, it is perfectly idiomatic Thistlebottomish 19th-century English, perfectly idiomatic pedantic English, and perfectly idiomatic pretentious English, depending upon one's POV. It's even grammatical in all respects.
[nq:1]which as you say doesn't go with the informal tone.[/nq]
It's out of order and doesn't make sense as it is wrotten (sic). "Jane is the most beautiful girl ({that / (who(m))}) I like" makes sense and "Jane is the most beautiful girl in the world" makes sense. The tone may seem informal only because the structure is incorrect, but the use of "whom" makes it clear that the intended tone is formal.

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