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Rotter Posted 19 years ago
Grammar
It wasn't the first problem we had had.
At the spent nuclear fuel storage facility at Andreeva Bay, north-west of Saida Bay, you can see why.
It is dangerous. The delegation had to wear protective clothing even for their brief visit.
It is a sensitive location. The Russians told television crews, including the BBC, they had to agree to their pictures being censored if they wished to film.
It wasn't the first problem we had had. Earlier in the day, at the naval dockyard in Polyarny, we had been prevented from filming a submarine which was due to be broken up.
I assume he was an agent of the FSB, the Russian secret police. He demanded to see what was on the cassette in our camera.
We had not even been able to film the delegation looking at the submarine. Even with the Cold War over, the Soviet navy's nuclear legacy is still surrounded by secrecy and suspicion.
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It was not the first problem we had had.
Is it fine to write 'had had' in the above?
It will be correct to say ' It was not the problem we had.'
I can't understand the use of two words of 'had'.
However, this borders past perfect.
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The fifth sentence of the above is fine:
The Russians told the crew ...
They had to agree ...
[Just the imperfect tense.]
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The seventh sentence is also fine:
Earlier in the day ...
We had been prevented ...
[Just the imperfect tense.]
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It is a sensitive location. The Russians told television crews, including the BBC, they had to agree to their pictures being censored if they wished to film.
It wasn't the first problem we had had. Earlier in the day, at the naval dockyard in Polyarny, we had been prevented from filming a submarine which was due to be broken up.
I assume he was an agent of the FSB, the Russian secret police. He demanded to see what was on the cassette in our camera.
We had not even been able to film the delegation looking at the submarine. Even with the Cold War over, the Soviet navy's nuclear legacy is still surrounded by secrecy and suspicion.
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It was not the first problem we had had.
Is it fine to write 'had had' in the above?
It will be correct to say ' It was not the problem we had.'
I can't understand the use of two words of 'had'.
However, this borders past perfect.
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The fifth sentence of the above is fine:
The Russians told the crew ...
They had to agree ...
[Just the imperfect tense.]
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The seventh sentence is also fine:
Earlier in the day ...
We had been prevented ...
[Just the imperfect tense.]
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Top answer
Hi, I woud say "the first problem we had had" is ok, and "the first problem we had" is probably ok too, but can't be sure. You need to wait for a native speaker.
- Hi, I woud say "the first problem we had had" is ok, and "the first problem we had" is probably ok too, but can't be sure.
- You need to wait for a native speaker.
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Hi,
I woud say "the first problem we had had" is ok, and "the first problem we had" is probably ok too, but can't be sure. You need to wait for a native speaker.
I woud say "the first problem we had had" is ok, and "the first problem we had" is probably ok too, but can't be sure. You need to wait for a native speaker.
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I am not satisfied by the answer. Our friend who answered the question was not sure about his reply.
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Here is a good thread explaining had had Please explain had had,had and have had,have
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Thanks nona the brit for the reply.
I looked at the thread you mentioned. Our great friend CalifJim has explained some facts.
However, it is not clear to me.
I have learnt to write the words 'had had' in third conditional sentence.
1.If I have a Sun Sparc computer, I will run Solaris on it.
2.If I had a Sun Sparc computer, I would run Solaris on it.
3.If I had had a
I looked at the thread you mentioned. Our great friend CalifJim has explained some facts.
However, it is not clear to me.
I have learnt to write the words 'had had' in third conditional sentence.
1.If I have a Sun Sparc computer, I will run Solaris on it.
2.If I had a Sun Sparc computer, I would run Solaris on it.
3.If I had had a
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Rotter3.If I had had a Sun Sparc computer, I would have ran Solaris on it. <-- would have runNona didn't notice that, and maybe you already know, but... I thought I'd better point it out, you never know...
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The present tense is RUN
The past tense is RAN
The past participle is RUN
So, run-ran-run. The verb "see" goes see-saw-seen, for example. So you say:
I see - I run
I saw - I ran
I have seen - I have run
That's why it is actually "would have run"
The past tense is RAN
The past participle is RUN
So, run-ran-run. The verb "see" goes see-saw-seen, for example. So you say:
I see - I run
I saw - I ran
I have seen - I have run
That's why it is actually "would have run"
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Kooyeen
I eat humble pie. The irregular nature of the verb run didn't cross my mind. You and Nona are correct.
I eat humble pie. The irregular nature of the verb run didn't cross my mind. You and Nona are correct.
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