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while reading an essay about Tibetan Art, i happened to find this sentence, but it looks somewhat improper to me. is this okay for us to make this kind of sentence?
"It is the works of art that these two princesses brought with them to Tibet that form the sacred seeds of the origins of Tibetan art."
in this sentence, i wonder why and how the two relative pronouns 'that' are used. in my opinion, i think it is correct use like this: It is the works of art that these two princesses brought with them to Tibet, and which form the sacred seeds of the origins of Tibetan art.
"It is the works of art that these two princesses brought with them to Tibet that form the sacred seeds of the origins of Tibetan art."
in this sentence, i wonder why and how the two relative pronouns 'that' are used. in my opinion, i think it is correct use like this: It is the works of art that these two princesses brought with them to Tibet, and which form the sacred seeds of the origins of Tibetan art.
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[nq:1]while reading an essay about Tibetan Art, i happened to find this sentence, but it looks somewhat improper to me. [/nq] Yhe original version is correct. A bit awkward, but correct.
- [nq:1]while reading an essay about Tibetan Art, i happened to find this sentence, but it looks somewhat improper to me.
- [/nq] Yhe original version is correct.
- A bit awkward, but correct.
- " The second "that" clause modifies an earlier structure that includes the first "that" clause.
- "It" is an expletive -- a place-holder -- and does not have an antecedent as such.
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[nq:1]while reading an essay about Tibetan Art, i happened to find this sentence, but it looks somewhat improper to me. ... these two princesses brought with them to Tibet, and which form the sacred seeds of the origins of Tibetan art.[/nq]
Yhe original version is correct. A bit awkward, but correct. The antecedent of the first relative "that" is "works of art." The antecedent of the second r
Yhe original version is correct. A bit awkward, but correct. The antecedent of the first relative "that" is "works of art." The antecedent of the second r
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[nq:1]while reading an essay about Tibetan Art, i happened to find this sentence, but it looks somewhat improper to me. ... that these two princesses brought with them to Tibet that form the sacred seeds of the origins of Tibetan art."[/nq]
OK? Yes. Good? No.
[nq:1]in this sentence, i wonder why and how the two relative pronouns 'that' are used.[/nq]
The first "that" represents "the w
OK? Yes. Good? No.
[nq:1]in this sentence, i wonder why and how the two relative pronouns 'that' are used.[/nq]
The first "that" represents "the w
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[nq:1]while reading an essay about Tibetan Art, i happened to find this sentence, but it looks somewhat improper to me. ... these two princesses brought with them to Tibet, and which form the sacred seeds of the origins of Tibetan art.[/nq]
Ok, since the two cheeseburger experts missed the point of your question altogether, and got it wrong, anyway, I'll have to answer it.
No, the se
Ok, since the two cheeseburger experts missed the point of your question altogether, and got it wrong, anyway, I'll have to answer it.
No, the se
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[nq:1]"It is the works of art that these two princesses brought with them to Tibet that form the sacred seeds of the origins of Tibetan art."[/nq]
Two useful editorial guidelines: 1. When in doubt, cut it out. 2. Beware existential statements (it was X that, despite the fact that, and the like.) Thus:
"The works of art that these two princesses brought became the seeds of Tibetan art
Two useful editorial guidelines: 1. When in doubt, cut it out. 2. Beware existential statements (it was X that, despite the fact that, and the like.) Thus:
"The works of art that these two princesses brought became the seeds of Tibetan art
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[nq:2]while reading an essay about Tibetan Art, i happened to ... form the sacred seeds of the origins of Tibetan art.[/nq]
[nq:1]Ok, since the two cheeseburger experts missed the point of your question altogether, and got it wrong, anyway, I'll have ... The "it" represents "(the thing) that forms the sacred seeds ~~", so 'form' should be in third person singular: 'forms'.[/nq]
You have a
[nq:1]Ok, since the two cheeseburger experts missed the point of your question altogether, and got it wrong, anyway, I'll have ... The "it" represents "(the thing) that forms the sacred seeds ~~", so 'form' should be in third person singular: 'forms'.[/nq]
You have a
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[nq:1]while reading an essay about Tibetan Art, i happened to find this sentence, but it looks somewhat improper to me. ... that these two princesses brought with them to Tibet that form the sacred seeds of the origins of Tibetan art."[/nq]
I am just going to rewrite it and then discuss placement later:
*It is these works of art which the two princesses brought with them to Tibet whi
I am just going to rewrite it and then discuss placement later:
*It is these works of art which the two princesses brought with them to Tibet whi
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[nq:2]while reading an essay about Tibetan Art, i happened to ... form the sacred seeds of the origins of Tibetan art.[/nq]
[nq:1]Ok, since the two cheeseburger experts missed the point of your question altogether, and got it wrong, anyway, I'll have ... to come up with all manner of silly arguments in defence of their error, but they can easily be ignored.[/nq]
Wow. I'm impressed. You ma
[nq:1]Ok, since the two cheeseburger experts missed the point of your question altogether, and got it wrong, anyway, I'll have ... to come up with all manner of silly arguments in defence of their error, but they can easily be ignored.[/nq]
Wow. I'm impressed. You ma
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[nq:1] in messagenews:...[/nq]
[nq:2] Ok, since the two cheeseburger experts missed the point ... defence of their error, but they can easily be ignored.[/nq]
[nq:1]Wow. I'm impressed. You managed not only to be wrong twice in one reply, but to be offensively rude about it. It is a marvelous thing that you can make Eric seem like a fount of knowledge and sweet reason by comparison. Richar
[nq:2] Ok, since the two cheeseburger experts missed the point ... defence of their error, but they can easily be ignored.[/nq]
[nq:1]Wow. I'm impressed. You managed not only to be wrong twice in one reply, but to be offensively rude about it. It is a marvelous thing that you can make Eric seem like a fount of knowledge and sweet reason by comparison. Richar
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The problem is the pronoun and the definite article being used as an anticipatory subject, subordinating the two princesses whom actually get the show going; substitute these, as an adjective modifier of works, and my nice rewrite makes a stronger sentence.
Joanne
Joanne
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[nq:2] Ok, since the two cheeseburger experts missed the point ... defence of their error, but they can easily be ignored.[/nq]
[nq:1]Wow. I'm impressed. You managed not only to be wrong twice in one reply, but to be offensively rude about it. It is a marvelous thing that you can make Eric seem like a fount of knowledge and sweet reason by comparison.[/nq]
Rilly?
The construction
[nq:1]Wow. I'm impressed. You managed not only to be wrong twice in one reply, but to be offensively rude about it. It is a marvelous thing that you can make Eric seem like a fount of knowledge and sweet reason by comparison.[/nq]
Rilly?
The construction
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