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Not yet noticed here, I see.
The nickname apparently (1) given by former (and now dead) presenter of the BBC Radio 4 ?Today' programme (2) Brian Redhead to fellow presenter (formerly fronting ?Woman's Hour'), the South African Sue MacGregor, graduate of the SABC in more monochrome times.
Redhead thought, with some justification, that MacGregor had a tendency not to have, in interviewing politicians, quite the mastery of the subject in hand that she ought to have done; and was on the team for decorative and quota reasons, rather than journalistic ability.
Redhead was a professional Northerner, with an ego the size of Manchester Town Hall. What MacGregor's nickname was for him, I have yet to discover.
(1) On page 38 of Tim Luckhurst's book ?This Is Today'.
(2) An oddity in itself: it's listed in the ?Radio Times' as just ?Today' ? but seems generally to be referred to (in the media, at least) as ?the ?Today' programme'. Why? Perhaps the vintage ? the show started, in very different shape to what it now is, in the more sedate later 1950s, when it might have been thought that ?Today' on its own was a bit brash.
There was a (now long defunct) early evening TV show on the BBC, which started around the same time, named ?Tonight'. Was that also generally called ?the Tonight programme'? Way before my time
The nickname apparently (1) given by former (and now dead) presenter of the BBC Radio 4 ?Today' programme (2) Brian Redhead to fellow presenter (formerly fronting ?Woman's Hour'), the South African Sue MacGregor, graduate of the SABC in more monochrome times.
Redhead thought, with some justification, that MacGregor had a tendency not to have, in interviewing politicians, quite the mastery of the subject in hand that she ought to have done; and was on the team for decorative and quota reasons, rather than journalistic ability.
Redhead was a professional Northerner, with an ego the size of Manchester Town Hall. What MacGregor's nickname was for him, I have yet to discover.
(1) On page 38 of Tim Luckhurst's book ?This Is Today'.
(2) An oddity in itself: it's listed in the ?Radio Times' as just ?Today' ? but seems generally to be referred to (in the media, at least) as ?the ?Today' programme'. Why? Perhaps the vintage ? the show started, in very different shape to what it now is, in the more sedate later 1950s, when it might have been thought that ?Today' on its own was a bit brash.
There was a (now long defunct) early evening TV show on the BBC, which started around the same time, named ?Tonight'. Was that also generally called ?the Tonight programme'? Way before my time
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[nq:1]Not yet noticed here, I see. [/nq] > [nq:1](2) An oddity in itself: it's listed in the 'Radio Times' as just 'Today' - but seems generally to ... [/nq] Some felt it necessary to distinguish between the 'Today Programme' and the 'Today Newspaper' when they were both in existence between 1986 and 1995.
- [nq:1]Not yet noticed here, I see.
- [/nq] > [nq:1](2) An oddity in itself: it's listed in the 'Radio Times' as just 'Today' - but seems generally to ...
- [/nq] Some felt it necessary to distinguish between the 'Today Programme' and the 'Today Newspaper' when they were both in existence between 1986 and 1995.
- It still didn't prevent errors.
- I was once described as'the weather correspondent of the Today Programme' on the PA wire when I was a contributor to the newspaper.
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[nq:1]Not yet noticed here, I see. The nickname apparently (1) given by former (and now dead) presenter of the BBC Radio 4 'Today' programme (2) ...[/nq]
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[nq:1](2) An oddity in itself: it's listed in the 'Radio Times' as just 'Today' - but seems generally to ... the more sedate later 1950s, when it might have been thought that 'Today' on its own was a bit brash.[/nq]
Some felt it
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[nq:1](2) An oddity in itself: it's listed in the 'Radio Times' as just 'Today' - but seems generally to ... the more sedate later 1950s, when it might have been thought that 'Today' on its own was a bit brash.[/nq]
Some felt it
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No matter how I dummed and diddied, I couldn't get The Devil's Gallop to fit.
Whatever happened to ****, Jock and Snowy?
Cheers, Sage
Whatever happened to ****, Jock and Snowy?
Cheers, Sage
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[nq:1]Not yet noticed here, I see. The nickname apparently (1) given by former (and now dead) presenter of the BBC ... quota reasons, rather than journalistic ability. Redhead was a professional Northerner, with an ego the size of Manchester Town Hall.[/nq]
Indeed, but of mixed origin. He came from the North East, but=20 settled in Macclesfield. I was very fo
[nq:1]Not yet noticed here, I see. The nickname apparently (1) given by former (and now dead) presenter of the BBC ... quota reasons, rather than journalistic ability. Redhead was a professional Northerner, with an ego the size of Manchester Town Hall.[/nq]
Indeed, but of mixed origin. He came from the North East, but=20 settled in Macclesfield. I was very fo
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[nq:2] It was "Tonight, with Cliff Michelmore. Dum, dum, dum, dum, dida dida didum didum, didadidum dum dum, didididida dum dum ..."[/nq]
[nq:1]No matter how I dummed and diddied, I couldn't get The Devil's Gallop to fit. Whatever happened to ****, Jock and Snowy?[/nq]
What is the secret of the room?
What has happened to the man who screamed?
What is crawling towards Gardner and Ba
[nq:1]No matter how I dummed and diddied, I couldn't get The Devil's Gallop to fit. Whatever happened to ****, Jock and Snowy?[/nq]
What is the secret of the room?
What has happened to the man who screamed?
What is crawling towards Gardner and Ba
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[nq:2]No. It was "Tonight, with Cliff Michelmore. Dum, dum, dum, dum, dida dida didum didum, didadidum dum dum, didididida dum dum ..." Philip Eden[/nq]
[nq:1]No matter how I dummed and diddied, I couldn't get The Devil's Gallop to fit. Whatever happened to ****, Jock and Snowy?[/nq]
Cue extract from my continuity script for a recent BBC7 programme:
A brief p
[nq:2]No. It was "Tonight, with Cliff Michelmore. Dum, dum, dum, dum, dida dida didum didum, didadidum dum dum, didididida dum dum ..." Philip Eden[/nq]
[nq:1]No matter how I dummed and diddied, I couldn't get The Devil's Gallop to fit. Whatever happened to ****, Jock and Snowy?[/nq]
Cue extract from my continuity script for a recent BBC7 programme:
A brief p
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I suspect it's more prosaic. Imagine the confusion in the spoken word:
'Did you hear Today?'
'Gordon's going to be on Today'
'Did you see Tonight?'
let alone
'Did you hear Today yesterday?'
'Gordon's going to be on Today tomorrow'
'Did you see Tonight last night?'
So while you can say 'Welcome to Today' or 'That's all from Tonight' while you're actually on air,
'Did you hear Today?'
'Gordon's going to be on Today'
'Did you see Tonight?'
let alone
'Did you hear Today yesterday?'
'Gordon's going to be on Today tomorrow'
'Did you see Tonight last night?'
So while you can say 'Welcome to Today' or 'That's all from Tonight' while you're actually on air,
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(infidels cut from crossposting)
Thus spake John Dean:
[nq:2]> Some felt it necessary to distinguish between the 'Today ... PA wire when I was a contributor to the newspaper.[/nq]
[nq:1]I suspect it's more prosaic. Imagine the confusion in the spoken word: 'Did you hear Today?' 'Gordon's going to be ... from Tonight' while you're actually on air, references *to* the shows need to ha
Thus spake John Dean:
[nq:2]> Some felt it necessary to distinguish between the 'Today ... PA wire when I was a contributor to the newspaper.[/nq]
[nq:1]I suspect it's more prosaic. Imagine the confusion in the spoken word: 'Did you hear Today?' 'Gordon's going to be ... from Tonight' while you're actually on air, references *to* the shows need to ha
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[nq:1]Not yet noticed here, I see. The nickname apparently (1) given by former (and now dead) presenter of the BBC ... to fellow presenter (formerly fronting 'Woman's Hour'), the South African Sue MacGregor, graduate of the SABC in more monochrome times.[/nq]
Oh no, you've got it all wrong, the office MacGregor happened to work in was "actually quite liberal" for the time not bound by the ardo
Oh no, you've got it all wrong, the office MacGregor happened to work in was "actually quite liberal" for the time not bound by the ardo
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[nq:1](infidels cut from crossposting) Thus spake John Dean:[/nq]
[nq:2]I suspect it's more prosaic. Imagine the confusion in the ... shows need to have 'programme' or 'show' added to them.[/nq]
[nq:1]I think you'll find that intonation will make it clear that you're not speaking of a time frame, but to pronouncing a proper noun.[/nq]
Intonation will make it clear? How do you know anyt
[nq:2]I suspect it's more prosaic. Imagine the confusion in the ... shows need to have 'programme' or 'show' added to them.[/nq]
[nq:1]I think you'll find that intonation will make it clear that you're not speaking of a time frame, but to pronouncing a proper noun.[/nq]
Intonation will make it clear? How do you know anyt
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[nq:1]I was very fond of the club he founded "The Friends of the M6".[/nq]
He thus made the Thelwall Viaduct nationally famous ...
He thus made the Thelwall Viaduct nationally famous ...
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