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Anonymous Posted 10 years ago
Grammar

Is this sentence well-structured and understandable?

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Is this sentence well-structured and understandable?

John’s debt for management and utility services first incurred in November 2005 and, as of May 2013, it amounted to GBP 8876.

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John’s debt for management and utility services was first incurred in November 2005 and as of May 2013, it amounted to GBP 8876.

  • John’s debt for management and utility services was first incurred in November 2005 and as of May 2013, it amounted to GBP 8876.
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11 Answers
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John’s debt for management and utility services was first incurred in November 2005 and as of May 2013, it amounted to GBP 8876.
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Mister Micawber and, as of May 2013, it amounted to GBP 8876.
I'd have either the two commas I have highlighted or none.
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fivejedjonI'd have either the two commas I have highlighted or none.
Nonetheless, my rendering was not done in error.
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So, would you write the sentence below?

John’s debt for was first incurred in November 2005 and, it amounted to GBP 8876.
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fivejedjonSo, would you write the sentence below?John’s debt for was first incurred in November 2005 and, it amounted to GBP 8876.
Nope. It is just that too many commas slow the text, and that the conjunction can be combined with a short following adverbial, like that or this:

He shot several times, and in the end, his quarry fell.

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I doubt if he will support you on a single comma after 'and'.
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fivejedjonI doubt if he will support you on a single comma after 'and'.
Ah, I see. It's the first comma I missed!

...first incurred in November 2005, and as of May 2013, it...

Is that better?
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No. It's the phrase 'as of May 2013, that is the unit that needs separation from the rest by commas or brackets.

The presence or absence of a comma before 'and' is a separate issue.
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fivejedjon. It's the phrase 'as of May 2013, that is the unit that needs separation from the rest by commas or brackets.
Ah, then. That's where I disagree.
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This is one where we'll have to agree to disagree.

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