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Ilinca Posted 17 years ago
Grammar
Is this sentence "atrocious"?
Hi.
Someone said about the following sentence that it's atrocious - obviously meaning it's badly written:
"For the moment, the actual release date of Palm Pre is not known, but the smartphone is said to be outed in the US first, via Sprint (the carrier apparently has exclusivity on the handset until 2010)."
I know the stuff between the brackets should be "apparently, the carrier has...", but other than that, I see nothing wrong with the sentence. So, could you please tell me why would one say it's atrocious?
Thanks.
Someone said about the following sentence that it's atrocious - obviously meaning it's badly written:
"For the moment, the actual release date of Palm Pre is not known, but the smartphone is said to be outed in the US first, via Sprint (the carrier apparently has exclusivity on the handset until 2010)."
I know the stuff between the brackets should be "apparently, the carrier has...", but other than that, I see nothing wrong with the sentence. So, could you please tell me why would one say it's atrocious?
Thanks.
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Welcome to English Forums! "said to be outed" seems odd rather than atrocious. Was it "set to be outed"?
- Welcome to English Forums!
- "said to be outed" seems odd rather than atrocious.
- Was it "set to be outed"?
- The material in parentheses might be better placed in a separate sentence.
- Ilinca could you please tell me why would one say it's atrocious?
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"said to be outed" seems odd rather than atrocious. Was it "set to be outed"? The material in parentheses might be better placed in a separate sentence.
"said to be outed" seems odd rather than atrocious. Was it "set to be outed"? The material in parentheses might be better placed in a separate sentence.
Ilincacould you please tell me why would one say it's atrocious?It could be as simple as this: It's not the way your critic would have written it.
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"Said to be outed" stands for "is rumored to be outed" - and as far as I know, there's nothing wrong with this. Or is it? 
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A gay man who has been keeping his sexual orientation a secret is "outed" when someone else reveals he is gay.
Products are introduced.
Products are introduced.
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Hi,
We don't normally say tings like 'This new product will be outed next September'. 'Out' is not a verb, except in the gay context already mentioned.
Things we might say include these.
This new product will be introduced next September.
This new product will be available next September.
This new product will be out next September. (The adjective 'out' here
We don't normally say tings like 'This new product will be outed next September'. 'Out' is not a verb, except in the gay context already mentioned.
Things we might say include these.
This new product will be introduced next September.
This new product will be available next September.
This new product will be out next September. (The adjective 'out' here
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Thanks for the clarifications regarding "outed".
What I don't get is why the term is still largely used, exactly in the context I've used. I've seen it on major tech blogs and websites, used by native English speakers who write for the general public - and I never saw comments like "boo, that's atrocious".
It's just weird, that's all
What I don't get is why the term is still largely used, exactly in the context I've used. I've seen it on major tech blogs and websites, used by native English speakers who write for the general public - and I never saw comments like "boo, that's atrocious".
It's just weird, that's all
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Are you really sure you saw "outed" instead of "out"?
I don't read tech blogs, but I don't live under a rock either, and I've never seen it used that way.
I don't read tech blogs, but I don't live under a rock either, and I've never seen it used that way.
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Yes, I'm sure. Just search "outed by" with Google - the first results will lead you to one of the biggest tech blogs out there.
I'm not doubting your knowledge, but perhaps the term has gained a new meaning in the last few years.
I'm not doubting your knowledge, but perhaps the term has gained a new meaning in the last few years.
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I guess it has.
There are some people who see every evolotion of English as a sign of declining standards and moan and whine about how it's not the language it used to be. That's sad - a language should be a living thing. Perhaps the person who said it was atrocious is one of the people who still insists that it's a flogging offense to end a sentence with a preposition or to boldy split
There are some people who see every evolotion of English as a sign of declining standards and moan and whine about how it's not the language it used to be. That's sad - a language should be a living thing. Perhaps the person who said it was atrocious is one of the people who still insists that it's a flogging offense to end a sentence with a preposition or to boldy split
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Grammar GeekI'm a curmudgeon when it comes to writing "ur" in a business letter, but I'm always interested to see new uses for words. I'm not ready to say a product is "outed" yet myself -- I'd still say introduced or rolled out, but I'll try not flinch when I hear others say it.As something of a curmudgeon myself I do in fact find this usage "atrocious." We c
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