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Is it to be " my brothers and I " or " my brothers and me" that's the question ?

Interesting snippet from today's Guardian about. Personally, I can't see anything wrong with saying " ...my brothers and I.." and indeed prefer this to "..and me..".
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Jon Henley
Wednesday September 27, 2006
The Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/diary/story/0,,1881665,00.html

Many of you, we're sure, will have noticed Mr Gordon's grammatical howler on Monday. "My mother taught my brothers and I that whatever talents we had, we should use them to the full," he said. Thankfully, an unknown hand at the rabidly pro-Brown Daily Mail was there to correct the "I" to a "me" in the paper's glowing report. Otherwise where would we have been?

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[nq:1]Interesting snippet from today's Guardian about. " and ... was there to correct the "I" to a "me" in the paper's glowing report.

  • [nq:1]Interesting snippet from today's Guardian about.
  • " and ...
  • was there to correct the "I" to a "me" in the paper's glowing report.
  • [/nq] You can take heart in that there are many like you, but it just ain't right, y'know.
  • My mother taught I different.
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[nq:1]Interesting snippet from today's Guardian about. Personally, I can't see anything wrong with saying " ...my brothers and I.." and ... was there to correct the "I" to a "me" in the paper's glowing report. Otherwise where would we have been?[/nq]
You can take heart in that there are many like you, but it just ain't right, y'know. My mother taught I different. My brother too.
Skitt
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[nq:2]Interesting snippet from today's Guardian about. Personally, I can't see ... the paper's glowing report. Otherwise where would we have been?[/nq]
[nq:1]You can take heart in that there are many like you, but it just ain't right, y'know. My mother taught I different. My brother too.[/nq]
Why do you think it is wrong?

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[nq:2]You can take heart in that there are many like you, but it just ain't right, y'know. My mother taught I different. My brother too.[/nq]
[nq:1]Why do you think it is wrong?[/nq]
If you're asking Skitt, you shouldn't have trimmed (and without any indication, yet) the only newsgroup he reads (which I've restored).

Plenty of people will be along to tell you why it's wrong. If yo
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[nq:2]Why do you think it is wrong?[/nq]
[nq:1]If you're asking Skitt, you shouldn't have trimmed (and without any indication, yet) the only newsgroup he reads (which I've ... Search and search for "between you and I" (retaining the quotation marks) in alt.usage.english. This isn't exactly a new topic.[/nq]
I'd have been very surprised if it was.

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[nq:1]Interesting snippet from today's Guardian about. Personally, I can't see anything wrong with saying " ...my brothers and I.." and indeed prefer this to "..and me..".[/nq]
Which do you prefer: "My mother taught I..." or "My mother taught me..."?

Which do you prefer: "I went to work" or "Me went to work"?

Why? (Hint: think subjects and objects)
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[nq:2]Interesting snippet from today's Guardian about. Personally, I can't see ... brothers and I.." and indeed prefer this to "..and me..".[/nq]
[nq:1]Which do you prefer: "My mother taught I..." or "My mother taught me..."? Which do you prefer: "I went to work" or "Me went to work"? Why? (Hint: think subjects and objects)[/nq]
I suppose it comes down to idiomatic usage versus the grammar
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[nq:2]Interesting snippet from today's Guardian about. Personally, I can't see ... brothers and I.." and indeed prefer this to "..and me..".[/nq]
[nq:1]Which do you prefer: "My mother taught I..." or "My mother taught me..."? [/nq]
A false analogy, since you omitted the conjunction "and," which is what triggered the pronoun "I".
You pretend that the conjunction is irrelevant when it is
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The Grammer Genious schrieb:
[nq:2]Which do you prefer: "My mother taught I..." or "My mother taught me..."? [/nq]
[nq:1]A false analogy, since you omitted the conjunction "and," which is what triggered the pronoun "I". You pretend that the conjunction is irrelevant when it is manifestly the crux of the issue.[/nq]
Is that so? Can you quote a grammatical reference? Maybe this book coul
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[nq:1]Interesting snippet from today's Guardian about. Personally, I can't see anything wrong with saying " ...my brothers and I.." and ... was there to correct the "I" to a "me" in the paper's glowing report. Otherwise where would we have been?[/nq]
The rule of thumb is: Take out the other person/s, and see if what's left sounds right:
- "My mother taught (my brothers and) I that whatever
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[nq:2]Which do you prefer: "My mother taught I..." or "My mother taught me..."? [/nq]
[nq:1]A false analogy, since you omitted the conjunction "and," which is what triggered the pronoun "I". You pretend that the conjunction is irrelevant when it is manifestly the crux of the issue.[/nq]
Why is it the manifestly the crux of the issue?

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