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Intrusive Rs and pronunciation of "The idea is"
How many of you would say you insert intrusive Rs? I know I do, as it is much easier to join two vowels with the R. For me, the R is distinctly sounded at the start of the second vowel, not the end of the first. Examples of this are:
"The idea is" - "The eye dear is"
"Visa Application" - "Visa Rapplication"
"Drawing" - "Drore-ing"
What I'd like to know is, do these examples apply to many of you on here? Which of you insert intrusive Rs, and who does not? Especially in the case of "The idea is". Do you pronounce it as "The eye dear is"? And where do you put the R in your speech? As I said, it goes at the start of the second vowel in my dialect.
Cheers,
Matt
"The idea is" - "The eye dear is"
"Visa Application" - "Visa Rapplication"
"Drawing" - "Drore-ing"
What I'd like to know is, do these examples apply to many of you on here? Which of you insert intrusive Rs, and who does not? Especially in the case of "The idea is". Do you pronounce it as "The eye dear is"? And where do you put the R in your speech? As I said, it goes at the start of the second vowel in my dialect.
Cheers,
Matt
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[nq:1]How many of you would say you insert intrusive Rs? I know I do, as itis much easier to join ... the R in your speech?
- [nq:1]How many of you would say you insert intrusive Rs?
- I know I do, as itis much easier to join ...
- the R in your speech?
- [/nq] Also there's another example I've just thought of.
- "Law and order" - "Lore and order" Cheers, Matt
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[nq:1]How many of you would say you insert intrusive Rs? I know I do, as itis much easier to join ... the R in your speech? As I said, it goes at the start of the second vowel in my dialect.[/nq]
Also there's another example I've just thought of.
"Law and order" - "Lore and order"
Cheers,
Matt
Also there's another example I've just thought of.
"Law and order" - "Lore and order"
Cheers,
Matt
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[nq:1]How many of you would say you insert intrusive Rs? I know I do, as it is much easier to ... the R in your speech? As I said, it goes at the start of the second vowel in my dialect.[/nq]
My brother-in-law was raised on Long Island, NY, but has spent the past 45 years in Wisconsin. He still says drore-ing. The most frequent and noticeable usage, to me, is that he pronounces the henfruit as
My brother-in-law was raised on Long Island, NY, but has spent the past 45 years in Wisconsin. He still says drore-ing. The most frequent and noticeable usage, to me, is that he pronounces the henfruit as
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[nq:2]How many of you would say you insert intrusive Rs? ... goes at thestart of the second vowel in my dialect.[/nq]
[nq:1]My brother-in-law was raised on Long Island, NY, but has spent thepast 45 years in Wisconsin. He still says drore-ing. ... the henfruit as roareggs. I don't think I hear eye dear. He might say "vee sir application (orvee zer application).[/nq]
Good one, for roar eggs.
[nq:1]My brother-in-law was raised on Long Island, NY, but has spent thepast 45 years in Wisconsin. He still says drore-ing. ... the henfruit as roareggs. I don't think I hear eye dear. He might say "vee sir application (orvee zer application).[/nq]
Good one, for roar eggs.
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[nq:1]How many of you would say you insert intrusive Rs? I know I do, as it is much easier to ... the R in your speech? As I said, it goes at the start of the second vowel in my dialect.[/nq]
Choirs always have to be trained not to sing "Gloria rin Excelsis" - it seems like a pretty common phenomenon.
David
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Choirs always have to be trained not to sing "Gloria rin Excelsis" - it seems like a pretty common phenomenon.
David
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[nq:1]"Law and order" - "Lore and order"[/nq]
Or Laura Norder.
Don Aitken
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Or Laura Norder.
Don Aitken
Mail to the addresses given in the headers is no longer being read. To mail me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com".
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Well... for me, as best I can tell...
[nq:1]"The idea is" - "The eye dear is" often "Visa Application" - "Visa Rapplication" sometimes "Drawing" - "Drore-ing" never "Law ... the R in your speech? As I said, it goes at the start of the second vowel in my dialect.[/nq]
How do you tell the difference?
Sebastian.
[nq:1]"The idea is" - "The eye dear is" often "Visa Application" - "Visa Rapplication" sometimes "Drawing" - "Drore-ing" never "Law ... the R in your speech? As I said, it goes at the start of the second vowel in my dialect.[/nq]
How do you tell the difference?
Sebastian.
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[nq:1]How many of you would say you insert intrusive Rs? I know I do, as it is much easier to ... the R in your speech? As I said, it goes at the start of the second vowel in my dialect.[/nq]
Hi Matt. Two points. Firstly, I'd say that although such linkers are quite normal and correct in the speech of certain groups, the best public speakers eschew them in order to make themselves easily under
Hi Matt. Two points. Firstly, I'd say that although such linkers are quite normal and correct in the speech of certain groups, the best public speakers eschew them in order to make themselves easily under
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[nq:1]"The idea is" - "The eye dear is" "Visa Application" - "Visa Rapplication" "Drawing" - "Drore-ing"[/nq]
Many Bostonians and some New Yorkers do this. To my Midwestern ears it sounds grossly incorrect, and the same would be true of most Americans. Mike Hardy
Many Bostonians and some New Yorkers do this. To my Midwestern ears it sounds grossly incorrect, and the same would be true of most Americans. Mike Hardy
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[nq:1]How many of you would say you insert intrusive Rs? I know I do, as it is much easier to ... the R in your speech? As I said, it goes at the start of the second vowel in my dialect.[/nq]
I, like you (I think), say "The eye deer riz". (Sorry about the 'r' on 'deer/dear', but I can't think of any other way to represent that 'ear' sound.) Because of extensive insults by an Irish woman in my
I, like you (I think), say "The eye deer riz". (Sorry about the 'r' on 'deer/dear', but I can't think of any other way to represent that 'ear' sound.) Because of extensive insults by an Irish woman in my
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