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Interesting article from the AUE's first day:

"The centre/center question is a good example of why this is difficult. "Center" is a phonetically correct spelling throughout much of North America, but in Australia (and I think also in England), the spelling "centre" is a better representation of the pronunciation.

Spelling reform is possible, and some influential people are pushing for it; but it is going to mean a much larger separation between the written forms of American English and British English.

Spelling reform has worked in other languages because of the existence of a dominant group which was able to enforce its own pronunciation as the "standard". In the case of modern English, there are two dominant groups, neither of which would be willing to accept the spelling or pronunciation of the other. (Meanwhile, those of us in the non-dominant groups will, as usual, be crushed in the middle.)"

Why can't the Brits change their spelling to accomodate our* pronunciation, being that it's the *correct English pronunciation and we also have a majority of English-speakers. Plus, foreigners learn to speak "American"; not Irish.
  

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"Before Webster (and his predecessors like Benjamin Franklin), `center' and `color' were merely variant spellings. I'm not sure which Dr. " Who's "Dr.

  • "Before Webster (and his predecessors like Benjamin Franklin), `center' and `color' were merely variant spellings.
  • I'm not sure which Dr.
  • " Who's "Dr.
  • Johnson"?
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"Before Webster (and his predecessors like
Benjamin Franklin), `center' and `color' were merely variant spellings. I'm not sure which Dr. Johnson preferred."

Who's "Dr. Johnson"?
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[nq:1]"Before Webster (and his predecessors like Benjamin Franklin), `center' and `color' were merely variant spellings. I'm not sure which Dr. Johnson preferred." Who's "Dr. Johnson"?[/nq]
The guy who invented Pledge.

Ross Howard
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Thus spake Ross Howard:
[nq:2]"Before Webster (and his predecessors like Benjamin Franklin), `center' and `color' were merely variant spellings. I'm not sure which Dr. Johnson preferred." Who's "Dr. Johnson"?[/nq]
[nq:1]The guy who invented Pledge.[/nq]
That was his brother, Mr Johnson.

Simon R. Hughes
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"Or
"The cars were red, blue, green and blue, orange and white and grey" (Period omitted - I'll take the `5th')"
I get the example on what the commas do. But why's the period omitted and what's "taking the 5th" have to do with any of it?
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"Or
"The cars were red, blue, green and blue, orange and white and grey" (Period omitted - I'll take the `5th')
Sure it parses but it doesn't scan commas are pauses dashes and semicolons are too.
We don't spell the way we speak, shouldn't we at least punctuate phonetically."

OK. I just read the rest of the person's post. What does she mean by "it parses but it doesn't scan"? I
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Fontana will be happy to know that the AUE had its first pronunciation thread in its first day, May 13, 1991. So, Fontana, when people diss you for wanning to discuss the way words are said, tell them all to respect their elders.

"Message 1 in thread

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Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Date: 1991-05-13 00:12:41 PST
As long as we're at it, we need not
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[nq:1]"Before Webster (and his predecessors like Benjamin Franklin), `center' and `color' were merely variant spellings. I'm not sure which Dr. Johnson preferred." Who's "Dr. Johnson"?[/nq]
Samuel Johnson
born 1709, in Lichfield, Staffordshire
He studied at Oxford for a year, but dropped out because he couldn't afford it. His doctorates are honorary: Dublin (1765) and Oxford! (1775). A
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And, Ben proves that there is nothing unaccpetable about using multiple question marks:
"Well, (whoever), the next time you use the English language in a non-verbal context you should post it.
/Bill
?? How is it possible to use the English language in a non-verbal context?"
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"=> It is not a verbal contract ... but an oral one that => is not worth the paper it is written on.
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=An oral contract "is not worth the paper it's written on"? =I must be lost!
It's a "samuelgoldwynism." Also referred to as "goldwynesque speech"!"

HUH???!!!
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Simon R. Hughes filted:
[nq:1]Thus spake Ross Howard:[/nq]
[nq:2]The guy who invented Pledge.[/nq]
[nq:1]That was his brother, Mr Johnson.[/nq]
Now a "Johnson doctor" on the other hand, that'd be a urologist..r

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