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English 1b3 Posted 16 years ago
Grammar

Informal construction, ungrammatical or grammatical

This is a quote from the movie Green Mile:

"My name is John Coffee, like the drink, only not spelled the same."

Is this grammatical in writing, or would such an utterance be confined to casual, spoken English? If confined, what constituents or particular constructions in this sentence make it so?

Ta.
  

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like the drink,... features situational ellipsis of initial type. This is usual in discourse, which restricts the utterance to purely vernacular English.

  • like the drink,...
  • features situational ellipsis of initial type.
  • This is usual in discourse, which restricts the utterance to purely vernacular English.
  • Respectfully, Gleb Chebrikoff
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Greetings,

, ...like the drink,... features situational ellipsis of initial type. This is usual in discourse, which restricts the utterance to purely vernacular English.

Respectfully, Gleb Chebrikoff
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Thanks.

What exactly is missing before 'like'? I thought the missing words were following 'only'???

Since the clauses are reduced to phrases through the omission of implied words, should I punctuate them as phrases or as clauses?

Why is the omission of these words creating sentences restricted to vernacular English while many sentences that have ellipted words remain st
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English 1b3What exactly is missing before 'like'? I thought the missing words were following 'only'???
It is clear that pronunciation and spelling of the surname do not follow the same pattern, his words could be: ..., (which is pronounced) like the drink, ... Besides, your interpretation of the words in the movie is not precise. If you find them
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"My name is John Coffee, like the drink, only (it is) not spelled the same."

Ta. So the omission of the bold words above would be seen as strict ellipsis, which is surely grammatical, correct?

I just assume the subject and verb to be can always be removed if the subject is repeated elsewhere in the sentence. Such an ellipsis I'd see as correct in all writing--correct me i
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English 1b3Ta. So the omission of the bold words above would be seen as strict ellipsis, which is surely grammatical, correct?
- one of the criteria for strict ellipsis is that the missing expression is precisely recoverable. This does not agree with the above.
English 1b3the subject and verb to be can always be removed if the s
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Gleb_Chebrikoffone of the criteria for strict ellipsis is that the missing expression is precisely recoverable. This does not agree with the above.

I don't understand. What do you mean by precisely recoverable? "only it is..." Why is this not recoverable?

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