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English 1b3 Posted 16 years ago
Grammar

Infinitive vs progressive

I'm watching the numbers go up.

Would you use the apostrophe, when using the progressive rather than the bare infinitive?

I'm watching the numbers' going up.
  

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I definitely wouldn't use the possessive with the present participle. It would have to be a real noun: I'm watching the numbers' ascension.

  • I definitely wouldn't use the possessive with the present participle.
  • It would have to be a real noun: I'm watching the numbers' ascension.
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I definitely wouldn't use the possessive with the present participle.

It would have to be a real noun: I'm watching the numbers' ascension.
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Isn't it a gerund, an ing verb functioning as a noun?
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I would say no. There was a post recently by MrP supporting me in a similar case. I'll see if I can find it. It seemed based more on common practice than on a rule.
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going up is a verb (not a gerund). numbers is its subject.

The numbers are going up is never written as The numbers' are going up, so there's absolutely no reason to make numbers possessive in this slightly changed version of the same sentence.

watch is a catenative verb that takes either the infinitive or the -ing form of the fo
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CalifJimwatch is a catenative verb that takes either the infinitive or the -ing form of the following verb without affecting the intervening subject.

Thanks, for some reason I thought only infinitives were used after catenative verbs. Silly me. Now that I think about it, I actually remember reading that the ing form can be used instead of t
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English 1b3I actually remember reading
There's one.

Emotion: big smile
CJ
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CalifJim
English 1b3I actually remember reading
There's one.
Boy, here's a case where my ear lets me down.

I'd definitely say, "I remember his reading the report."

Rgdz, - A.
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CalifJim
English 1b3I actually remember reading
There's one.

One what? A catenative verb? I thought this was just a gerund, the DO of 'remember'?
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Avangi Seems to be a grey area with "remembering."
I remember his flying/swimming/acting/etc. These are nouns! But on the other hand, if you continue on, using the verbal quality of these words, the situation changes a little:
I remember him flying a biplane.
I remember him swimming in the Olympics.
I remember him acting like a fool.

HMMM-
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English 1b3One what? A catenative verb?
Yes.
English 1b3I thought this was just a gerund, the DO of 'remember'?
There are often multiple interpretations of the same structures.

CJ

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