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RyanM Posted 19 years ago
Grammar
Including me vs. Including myself
0 Hello! Here's a question that's been bothering me lately: 02 br
00 What's the proper way to type the following sentences: 02 br
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00 1) "Our field hockey group, including [me, myself] went to the party." 02 br
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00 2) "Our field hockey group, including [him, he] went to the party." 02 br
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00 For 2), I'm assuming "him" is correct, but I feel that the correct word to choose is "he" because it is he who is included in the group. 02 br
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00 Could someone shed some light on this please? I'd really appreciate it! 02 br
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00 Thanks, 02 br
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00 What's the proper way to type the following sentences: 02 br
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00 2) "Our field hockey group, including [him, he] went to the party." 02 br
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00 For 2), I'm assuming "him" is correct, but I feel that the correct word to choose is "he" because it is he who is included in the group. 02 br
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00 Could someone shed some light on this please? I'd really appreciate it! 02 br
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00 Thanks, 02 br
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0 I am used to saying 01 i 00 including me / us / you / him / her / them / it. 02 i 0-
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0 Hello Ryan, welcome to EF! 02 br
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00 I would agree with Ruslana. 02 br
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00 "Including" is a participle here, from the verb "include" (you might also say that it acts as a preposition). It has the sense "which included" in your examples, e.g. 02 br
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00 1. Our field hockey group, which included [me/myself], went to the party. 02 br
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00 I would agree with Ruslana. 02 br
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00 "Including" is a participle here, from the verb "include" (you might also say that it acts as a preposition). It has the sense "which included" in your examples, e.g. 02 br
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00 1. Our field hockey group, which included [me/myself], went to the party. 02 br
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0 Thanks for your prompt replies! 02 br
00 I've always considered myself a lover of grammar, but there are many times when what "seems" to be the correct response is not what it should really be. 02 br
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00 In a world where "me too" seems to be the norm in normal conversation, it's always refreshing to catch up on what proper grammar should be! 02 br
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00 I've always considered myself a lover of grammar, but there are many times when what "seems" to be the correct response is not what it should really be. 02 br
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00 In a world where "me too" seems to be the norm in normal conversation, it's always refreshing to catch up on what proper grammar should be! 02 br
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0 01 font 00 "self" is technically a reflexive. So, I wouldn't use it unless the speaker needs to include himself. 01 i 00 I am the head of a company, and I gave everyone, including myself, a Christmas bonus. 02 i 00 In your original sentence, the team is the subject, so I agree that 'me' is better. 02 font 00 0-
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0 You could not be more wrong. Myself is not acceptable. 02 br
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00 Myself is reflexive and can only be used if the word I is in the sentence. This misude is epidemic. Notice how you followed the rule for one example but not the other. 0-
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00 Myself is reflexive and can only be used if the word I is in the sentence. This misude is epidemic. Notice how you followed the rule for one example but not the other. 0-
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It´s including "HIM". But I also wonder about me and myself. If it is HIM, it should be ME. Who knows for sure?
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Use "including me". As explained above it is correct.
The only way to justify "including myself" is if you claim it is a shortening of ""Our field hockey group, I am including myself, went to the party." ... And that is very awkward.
It reality you don't even need to say "including me" if you are part of the field hockey group. It is redundant if you are part of the group.
The only way to justify "including myself" is if you claim it is a shortening of ""Our field hockey group, I am including myself, went to the party." ... And that is very awkward.
It reality you don't even need to say "including me" if you are part of the field hockey group. It is redundant if you are part of the group.
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I see you just joined us, so welcome to EnglishForward, LoboSol.
Anyway, in this case "myself" sounds very
LoboSolIt reality you don't even need to say "including me" if you are part of the field hockey group. It is redundant if you are part of the group.Well, redundancy seems to be present in every language, so I find it perfectly normal to use it.
Anyway, in this case "myself" sounds very
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Thanks for the welcome.
True, one can be, and often is, redundant while speaking. Sometimes it is used for emphasis such as saying, "I did it myself." The "myself" is redundant and used purely for emphasis.
While English offers great flexibility, there are many usages that are just plain wrong. Just because someone says, "I be a good person" doesn't mean that we should give it a
True, one can be, and often is, redundant while speaking. Sometimes it is used for emphasis such as saying, "I did it myself." The "myself" is redundant and used purely for emphasis.
While English offers great flexibility, there are many usages that are just plain wrong. Just because someone says, "I be a good person" doesn't mean that we should give it a
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There are no "unbreakable rules" in English: there are conventions. If enough people use an idiom it becomes accepted, even though technically it may appear to be in breach of grammatical correctness. English develops and changes over time, often causing upset to those with long memories. To use the appropriate modern expression: 'Get over it!'
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