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"in the common vernacular"

'Common vernacular'..can there be any other kind?

That was my first thought. It's redundant. I'm thinking: Dante wrote in the vernacular; whereas Petrarch wrote in Latin.
Then someone says, sure, 'common vernacular' is correct. To substantiate this, we could say 'legal vernacular' or 'boardroom vernacular'.
But isn't 'vernacular' the common tongue? So, although the other examples might be legit, 'common vernacular' isn't. A better alternative would be 'common parlance'.
Can someone offer a more educated opinion about this?
  

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can there be any other kind? That was my first thought. It's redundant.

  • can there be any other kind?
  • That was my first thought.
  • It's redundant.
  • I'm thinking: Dante wrote in the ...
  • legit, 'common vernacular' isn't.
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[nq:1]'Common vernacular'..can there be any other kind? That was my first thought. It's redundant. I'm thinking: Dante wrote in the ... legit, 'common vernacular' isn't. A better alternative would be 'common parlance'. Can someone offer a more educated opinion about this?[/nq]
Yes.
Syntactically, "vernacular" is a noun.
Nouns can be preceded by adjectives.
End of story.
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[nq:2]'Common vernacular'..can there be any other kind? That was my ... parlance'. Can someone offer a more educated opinion about this?[/nq]
[nq:1]Yes. Syntactically, "vernacular" is a noun. Nouns can be preceded by adjectives. End of story.[/nq]
'End of story' generally indicates that someone who has a closed mind is unwilling to have their error pointed out (-:
Are you happy with th
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[nq:1]an orange vernacular[/nq]
/Homer Simpson affectation
mmm, orange vernacular, my favorite.
\Homer Simpson affectation
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[nq:2]an orange vernacular[/nq]
[nq:1]/Homer Simpson affectation mmm, orange vernacular, my favorite. \Homer Simpson affectation[/nq]
(-:
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[nq:2]Yes. Syntactically, "vernacular" is a noun. Nouns can be preceded by adjectives. End of story.[/nq]
[nq:1]'End of story' generally indicates that someone who has a closed mind is unwilling to have their error pointed out (-:[/nq]
Or of someone who is tired of seeing unnecessary "rules" spring up out of nowhere, that have no grounding in reality. The reality is that the story ends the
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Firstly, using Google to represent how many "people" use some phrase is just stupid. Google could provide a list of web pages in its index which contain the phrase.

The question wasn't about syntax here, but semantics. My initial thought was that common vernacular is a tautology, but on further thought, I believe that "common vernacular" could be fine. Common vernacular could be the langu
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I don't recall any mention of rules. The only rule I recognise is usage.
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The context, if it matters:
"It should be called rib roast if it is not prime beef, but all the labeling
laws in the world will not alter common vernacular."
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"Common vernacular" seems to be the vernacular.
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[nq:2]Or of someone who is tired of seeing unnecessary "rules" ... used, no matter what your or my personal preferences are.[/nq]
[nq:1]I don't recall any mention of rules. The only rule I recognise is usage.[/nq]
As do I, but the rules of syntax (the real ones, at least) are flexible enough to allow just about any common usage (and are not afraid to admit that there are exceptions).
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