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Anonymous Posted 16 years ago
Grammar

In orther to/for/to/so that

Hello!

I have run into this sentence in an American website:

"The elephant needs to eat for about eighteen hours each day in order for it to grow as large as it does".

I can´t help believing it is wrong.I would understand the next constuctions:

"..each day in order to grow..."

"..each day to grow.."

"each day for it to grow.."

"each day so(that) it grows.." Also:"each day so(that) it could grow..."

Are my phrases correct?.I also think they all have similar meanings.

But as to the original phrase, it seems to me the writer had made a mistake, using "in orther to" and "for it to". It should have been only one of them, I think.

Thank you very much in advance!

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These are all OK and mean much the same thing: " in order for it to grow" " in order to grow" " to grow" " for it to grow" " so (that) it grows" and " so (that) it can grow" are grammatically possible but seem a bit odd in this sentence. They seem to suggest conscious planning (rather than nature simply taking its course). " so (that) it could grow" is not right ("could" is the wrong tense/mood).

  • These are all OK and mean much the same thing: " in order for it to grow" " in order to grow" " to grow" " for it to grow" " so (that) it grows" and " so (that) it can grow" are grammatically possible but seem a bit odd in this sentence.
  • They seem to suggest conscious planning (rather than nature simply taking its course).
  • " so (that) it could grow" is not right ("could" is the wrong tense/mood).
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These are all OK and mean much the same thing:

"in order for it to grow"

"in order to grow"

"to grow"

"for it to grow"

"so (that) it grows" and "so (that) it can grow" are grammatically possible but seem a bit odd in this sentence. They seem to suggest conscious planning (rather than nature simply taking its co
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Thank you very much Mt Wordy.

Could I say , for example: " I signed up for this course in orther for me to improve my driving skills"?

Is it, then, an usual way to talk?

Again, thank you in advance.

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for learningCould I say , for example: " I signed up for this course in orther order for me to improve my driving skills"?
It's theoretically possible but it feels more awkward and redundant than your original sentence about the elephants. Usually one would find another way to say this, most simply "I signed up for this course to improve my driving
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Thank you very much Mr. Wordy.

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