in order..., it would be best

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Is this sentence natural?Can you use in order with would? In order to maximize the time of my training, it would be better if you slept on sight.If you switch it around, the 2 clause don't seem to go together.It would be better if you slept on sight in order to maximize the time of my trainingThanks

Yoong Liat · Accepted Answer

Can you use in order with would? Yes.

Grammarfreak · Answer

AnonymousIs this sentence natural?
Can you use in order with would?
In order to maximize the time of my training, it would be better if you slept on sight.

The phrase: " It would be better if ..." has a conditional tone which does not tyically go with "in order to" from an idiomatic persepctive.
In order to - is an idiom when used in a given context connotes a sense of "stipulation", or requirement" if you will.

In order for you to graduate this year, you have to study English and Math much harder to get a passing grade.

In your sentence, I suggest this version and take out "in order ":
To maximize the usage of time ...., [ it will be best if you sleep on site]

AlpheccaStars · Answer

It would be better if you slept on site in order to maximize the time of your training.

Anonymous · Answer

AlpheccaStars, I am lost about it, Grammarfreak says it is incorrect to use would and in order together.

It would be better if you slept on site in order to maximize the time of your training.

Can you please tell me Is it correct to also flip it around : In order to maximize the time of your training,it would be better if you slept on site

Can I take out In order : It would be better if you slept on site to maximize the time of your training.

To maximize the time of your training,it would be better if you slept on site.

Thank you

AlpheccaStars · Answer

Anonymous AlpheccaStars, I am lost about it, Grammarfreak says it is incorrect to use would and in order together.It would be better if you slept on site in order to maximize the time of your training.Can you please tell me Is it correct to also flip it around : In order to maximize the time of your training,it would be better if you slept on siteCan I take out In order : It would be better if you slept on site to maximize the time of your training.To maximize the time of your training,it would be better if you slept on site.Thank you

It all depends on how much of a stickler you are on precise language. Informally, your versions are OK.

If you want a crisp, precise sentence, then say:

To maximize the value of your training, we recommend that you stay at the hotel on site.
To maximize the time you spend in training, we recommend that you stay at the hotel on site.

Grammarfreak · Answer

AnonymousI am lost about it, Grammarfreak says it is incorrect to use would and in order together.

I didn't use the word "incorrect" but if my comments somehow lead you to that impression, I'd like to clarify it.
When we use "in order to" in a context, we usually express a sentiment of importance and or purpose.

In order to save enough money for a trip to Europe next year, Mary took on a part time job. Now, we can either include or leave out "in oder", depending on the writer's persepctive. Another point I'd like to touch on is that between "would" and "will" in the context of your question, I opted to use " will " to show the importance of the phrase "in order to " because from a semantic level, it flows more smoothly to my ear. English is not math, therefore we can not formulate sentences like we do equations. More often than not, natural patterns are obtained through continual practice and usage, rather than examples from references. That's my opinion.

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