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Azz Posted 11 years ago
Grammar

In a way that you noticed

Can one say
a. Did any of the students talk to any other of the students in a way that you noticed?
b. Did any of the students talk to any other of the students in a way that you noticed it?

c. Did any of the students talk to any other of the students that you know of?

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The meaning of (c) is different from the meaning of the other two, in that in (c) you might know that a student has talked to another student without having noticed it yourself (someone told you). But if you have noticed it yourself, you still know about it. So (c) is just a bit more general.

Many thanks.
  

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azz talk ... in a way that you noticed? It's not clear what meaning you're trying to convey.

  • azz talk ...
  • in a way that you noticed?
  • It's not clear what meaning you're trying to convey.
  • They talked loudly enough for you to notice?
  • They talked with lots of hand gestures, so you noticed?
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azztalk ... in a way that you noticed?
It's not clear what meaning you're trying to convey.

They talked loudly enough for you to notice?
They talked with lots of hand gestures, so you noticed?
They talked while eating. Food was spilling out of their mouths in a disgusting way that was very noticeable?

Maybe you just mean: Did you
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Thank you very much.

I guess one could go for
d. Did you notice any student talk to any other student?

That is more general and would include all the cases you mentioned.
I was looking for another way of conveying the same idea.

What do you think of these

e. Did any two students talk to each other with you noticing?
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azzWhat do you think of thesee. Did any two students talk to each other with you noticing? f. Did any two students talk to each other with you noticing it?
Awkward, but grammatical.
azzMy feeling is that they are grammatical but are roundabout ways of saying something that could be said in a simpler way.
Agree.

CJ
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Thank you very much again.

Would you say this sentence is OK

A. He took something from my room, with me noticing it later.

This question came up as I was thinking about the other sentences. It is sort of along the same lines, so I did not start a new thread. I hope you don't mind me asking all these questions....

Many thanks.
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azzWould you say this sentence is OK
A. He took something from my room, with me noticing it later.
I can't say I'm overjoyed about it. "with ... -ing" is a very weak construction. In my opinion it should be avoided.

More directly and clearly, He took something from my room, but I didn't notice it until later.

CJ

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