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Jack112 Posted 21 years ago
Grammar

Imaginary Scenarios -would/will usage

1. Even if you keep doing that, I don't think you would ever go through the corner so fast where your car is the limit not you. (Is 'would' a conditional here or a suggestion? How can I tell? If it is a conditional, what is the other part of it?)

2. If it is a conditional, what would the other part be? (How is 'would' used here? Is it correct?)

3. If it is a conditional, what will the other part be? (I don't know why, but I like 'would' better than 'will' ? Why is that? Is 'will' incorrect here?)

4. Even if you keep doing that, I don't think you will ever go through the corner so fast where your car is the limit not you. (How is 'will' used here? How does it compare with 'would' ? Is this a better sentence or #1 is?)

5. You can't accept that I might know what you really desire, because that would mean that I know you. (What is the other part of the conditional for 'would' here? )

6. You can't accept that I might know what you really desire, because that will mean that I know you. (Again, I think 'would' sounds better than 'will' here. I think #5 is a better sentence. Why is that? How does the meaning of this sentence compare with #5?)

7. Anything from last night will be here. (What does this one mean? Am I saying that the things from last night will arrive here shortly?)
8. Anytning from last night would be here. (What does this sentence mean? I'm saying that the things are there alreayd? Is 'would' past tense here? Or a conditional? )

Thanks.
  

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Hello Jack 1. Even if you keep doing that, I don't think you would ever go through the corner so fast where your car is the limit not you. Reduced, this = "even if you do that, you would not do this".

  • Hello Jack 1.
  • Even if you keep doing that, I don't think you would ever go through the corner so fast where your car is the limit not you.
  • Reduced, this = "even if you do that, you would not do this".
  • This isn't a true conditional statement.
  • "Not doing this" isn't a consequence of "doing that".
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Hello Jack

1. Even if you keep doing that, I don't think you would ever go through the corner so fast where your car is the limit not you.

Reduced, this = "even if you do that, you would not do this".

This isn't a true conditional statement. "Not doing this" isn't a consequence of "doing that". Instead, the speaker is making an inference. Cf.

"Even if yo
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2. If it is a conditional, what would the other part be? (How is 'would' used here? Is it correct?)

Yes, that's fine.

3. If it is a conditional, what will the other part be? (I don't know why, but I like 'would' better than 'will' ? Why is that? Is 'will' incorrect here?)

'Will' is ok, but 'would' is more usual. 'Will' has a sense here of 'must'.
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5. You can't accept that I might know what you really desire, because that would mean that I know you.

= "If I knew what you really desired, it would mean that I knew you. So you can't accept that I might know what you really desire."

6. You can't accept that I might know what you really desire, because that will mean that I know you.

= "If I know what yo
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I don't understand what kind of 'would' I am using for these sentences. So they are not conditionals? They are suggestions? How do I know when to use 'would' then?

1. Even if you like cheese, you wouldn't like this piece of cheese which is green and mouldy and full of maggots. (So 'wouldn't' here is not a conditional? It is a suggestion? )

2. If it is a conditional,
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Tricky stuff, English. I'm glad I never had to learn it!
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MrPedantic
"Even if you like cheese, you wouldn't like this piece of cheese which is green and mouldy and full of maggots."

As you can see, 'not liking this mouldy cheese' isn't a consequence of 'liking cheese'.

MrP

So 'wouldn't' here is not a conditional? What is it then?

Scenario:

A: Wow, your store opens so
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"Even if you like cheese, you wouldn't like this piece of cheese which is green and mouldy and full of maggots."

Hello Jack

I would say that the condition here is implicit:

"Even if you like cheese, you wouldn't like this piece of cheese which is green and mouldy and full of maggots (if you were to eat some)."

Does that help
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Hello Jack

I would say that the condition here is implicit:

"Even if you like cheese, you wouldn't like this piece of cheese which is green and mouldy and full of maggots (if you were to eat some)."

If I say that, why I don't I use this #1? What difference does it make if I use #1 versus yours?

1. Even if you like cheese, you
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Jack112


"Even if you like cheese, you wouldn't like this piece of cheese which is green and mouldy and full of maggots (if you were to eat some)."

If I say that, why I don't I use this #1? What difference does it make if I use #1 versus yours?

1. Even if you like cheese, you won't like this piece of cheese which i
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Two cents. The "even" seems to take away the conditionality of "if".

Even if you [don't like / ?may not like] cheese, you'll love this cheesecake.
Even though you [don't like / may not like] cheese, you'll love this cheesecake.
Although you [don't like / may not like] cheese, you'll love this cheesecake.

With the impersonal "you":
Even people who [d

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