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Illiterate Jackson trial judge
How peculiar. Mr Michael Jackson, a singer, has been found not guilty.
The judge said, according to the report in the Telegraph: "Your bail is exonerated and you are released.".
How can bail be exonerated? Surely, to any literate person, it is obvious that a person can be exonerated bail, but bail isn't burdened by anything, being inanimate.
"You are released and exonerated bail.". This would have made it clear that it was Jackson who was being exonerated, which makes sense, not his bail, which doesn't.
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The judge said, according to the report in the Telegraph: "Your bail is exonerated and you are released.".
How can bail be exonerated? Surely, to any literate person, it is obvious that a person can be exonerated bail, but bail isn't burdened by anything, being inanimate.
"You are released and exonerated bail.". This would have made it clear that it was Jackson who was being exonerated, which makes sense, not his bail, which doesn't.
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". [/nq] Seems to be acceptable in LegAmE, or at least in CrimJAmE jargon.
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- [/nq] Seems to be acceptable in LegAmE, or at least in CrimJAmE jargon.
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[nq:1]"You are released and exonerated bail.". This would have made it clear that it was Jackson who was being exonerated, which makes sense, not his bail, which doesn't.[/nq]
Seems to be acceptable in LegAmE, or at least in CrimJAmE jargon.
[nq:1]"You are released and exonerated bail.". This would have made it clear that it was Jackson who was being exonerated, which makes sense, not his bail, which doesn't.[/nq]
Seems to be acceptable in LegAmE, or at least in CrimJAmE jargon.
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[nq:1]"You are released and exonerated bail.". This would have made it clear that it was Jackson who was being exonerated, which makes sense, not his bail, which doesn't.[/nq]
The word "exonerated" is used to mean "released" in US legal terminology. The judge's phrasing was quite correct.
Tony Cooper
Orlando FL
The word "exonerated" is used to mean "released" in US legal terminology. The judge's phrasing was quite correct.
Tony Cooper
Orlando FL
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[nq:1]"You are released and exonerated bail.". This would have made it clear that it was Jackson who was being exonerated, which makes sense, not his bail, which doesn't.[/nq]
Surely, you looked this up before making it up. It seems to be a frequent usage in AmE legal English:
California Bail Laws
Surety's motion to vacate forfeiture and exonerate bail was denied, and surety appealed.
Surely, you looked this up before making it up. It seems to be a frequent usage in AmE legal English:
California Bail Laws
Surety's motion to vacate forfeiture and exonerate bail was denied, and surety appealed.
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[nq:2]"You are released and exonerated bail.". This would have made ... being exonerated, which makes sense, not his bail, which doesn't.[/nq]
[nq:1]The word "exonerated" is used to mean "released" in US legal terminology. The judge's phrasing was quite correct.[/nq]
Ah, so it is a Yank illiteracy.
What a peculiar one though. I wonder how the misunderstanding started.
It is an
[nq:1]The word "exonerated" is used to mean "released" in US legal terminology. The judge's phrasing was quite correct.[/nq]
Ah, so it is a Yank illiteracy.
What a peculiar one though. I wonder how the misunderstanding started.
It is an
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[nq:2]The word "exonerated" is used to mean "released" in US legal terminology. The judge's phrasing was quite correct.[/nq]
[nq:1]Ah, so it is a Yank illiteracy. What a peculiar one though. I wonder how the misunderstanding started.[/nq]
No, Peter, it is a Brit illiteracy, which you would be aware of had you read farther down in the OED. It's only 450 years old.
Franke: EFL teach
[nq:1]Ah, so it is a Yank illiteracy. What a peculiar one though. I wonder how the misunderstanding started.[/nq]
No, Peter, it is a Brit illiteracy, which you would be aware of had you read farther down in the OED. It's only 450 years old.
Franke: EFL teach
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[nq:2]I'm sorry you find it puzzling. It shouldn't be! Yes, ... not that 'bail is exonerated from the burden of itself'.[/nq]
[nq:1]Here are definitions and example usages from the OED. By ommitting the 5th, you are being quite dishonest(1) about the ... you is both wrong and dishonest. Franke: EFL teacher & medical editor For email, replace numbers with English alphabet.[/nq]
I think the
[nq:1]Here are definitions and example usages from the OED. By ommitting the 5th, you are being quite dishonest(1) about the ... you is both wrong and dishonest. Franke: EFL teacher & medical editor For email, replace numbers with English alphabet.[/nq]
I think the
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[nq:2]Ah, so it is a Yank illiteracy. What a peculiar one though. I wonder how the misunderstanding started.[/nq]
[nq:1]No, Peter, it is a Brit illiteracy, which you would be aware of had you read farther down in the OED. It's only 450 years old.[/nq]
Not at all. You misunderstand, for some reason, that all the references are to exonerating 'of' or 'from' a person, not a thing. That is the
[nq:1]No, Peter, it is a Brit illiteracy, which you would be aware of had you read farther down in the OED. It's only 450 years old.[/nq]
Not at all. You misunderstand, for some reason, that all the references are to exonerating 'of' or 'from' a person, not a thing. That is the
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[nq:1]I think the OP is going to argue that example 5 doesn't answer his objection, as he says "bail", itself ... can also bear a burden. In effect, he's inviting you to show that exonerated can also mean "discharged" or "rescinded".[/nq]
Quite - well put.
"Aye, of that Chingis was it said that while he carpeted all Asia with bones, yet might a virgin with a bag of gold walk the lengt
Quite - well put.
"Aye, of that Chingis was it said that while he carpeted all Asia with bones, yet might a virgin with a bag of gold walk the lengt
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[nq:2]No, Peter, it is a Brit illiteracy, which you would ... farther down in the OED. It's only 450 years old.[/nq]
[nq:1]Not at all. You misunderstand, for some reason, that all the references are to exonerating 'of' or 'from' a person, ... ago. Only the recent yank illiteracy of using it to say that a thing, bail, can be exonerated, is new.[/nq]
Not true. You could exonerate your bowels
[nq:1]Not at all. You misunderstand, for some reason, that all the references are to exonerating 'of' or 'from' a person, ... ago. Only the recent yank illiteracy of using it to say that a thing, bail, can be exonerated, is new.[/nq]
Not true. You could exonerate your bowels
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[nq:2]Not at all. You misunderstand, for some reason, that all ... say that a thing, bail, can be exonerated, is new.[/nq]
[nq:1]Not true. You could exonerate your bowels or your finances 450 years ago and still can. From Def. 1: to ... that in the 17th century, things other than the bowels and Nature itself, and not only persons were also exonerated.[/nq]
Thank you. I feel exonerated.
[nq:1]Not true. You could exonerate your bowels or your finances 450 years ago and still can. From Def. 1: to ... that in the 17th century, things other than the bowels and Nature itself, and not only persons were also exonerated.[/nq]
Thank you. I feel exonerated.
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