idiom VS proverbs

From the Cambridge dictionary-

Idiom

a group of words in a fixed order that have a particular meaning that is different from the meanings of each word understood on its own:



Proverb

a short sentence, etc., usually known by many people, stating something commonly experienced or giving advice:

My2senseFrom the Cambridge dictionary-

Idiom

a group of words in a fixed order that have a particular meaning that is different from the meanings of each word understood on its own:



Proverb

a short sentence, etc., usually known by many people, stating something commonly experienced or giving advice:

Joey_fiveIt's still a bit vague... But accorcing to these definitions, a proverb must be a SENTENCE while an idiom is just a phrase (a group of words)???

Hello Joey5

You are right. A proverb is a saying such that almost everybody knows and you understand easily what it means. For example "Necessity is the mother of invention" is a proverb.

A

Hi,

Here's one theory, via Google.

Clive

KICK THE BUCKET - " . . . some etymologists say the phrase comes from . . . Slaughtered hogs, their throats slit, used to be hung by their heels, which were tied to a wooden block and the rope then thrown over a pulley that hoisted the animals up. Because hoisting the block was similar to raising a bucket f

Thank you, Clive, for the interesting information. By the way I notice you have changed your partner. Sounds like una mujer muy simpatica. Quiero hablar con ella.

paco

Pero ella me hable solamente, porque ella tiene ojos solamente para mí.

Clive

Ok. My question is what is the difference between a saying and a proberb?

Hi,

what is the difference between a saying and a proverb?

In practice, there's often not much difference.

My Oxford dictionary says this.

proverb - a short pithy saying in general use, held to embody a general truth.

You might like to note that we sometimes introduce a proverb by

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00Here is my question: can a proverb then be an idiom? If I say that I "counted my chickens before they hatched," it is therefore a proverb because we all know that it means not to rely on something before you have it. However, can it not also be an idiom? I was told that if people from another country cannot understand your sentence because it is ambiguous the way you s

Proverbs have more meaning, such as a lesson to learn.
Idioms are just colorful expressions, not offered to provide a moral or deep thought.