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Iasadih Posted 13 years ago
Grammar

I once saw vs I have seen once.

Once has a different meaing in these two, doesn't it?
  

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Hi iasadih; Please give entire sentences. It's hard to tell with phrases. These have the same meaning/ Once = (at) one time.

  • Hi iasadih; Please give entire sentences.
  • It's hard to tell with phrases.
  • These have the same meaning/ Once = (at) one time.
  • I have seen him once.
  • I once saw him.
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Hi iasadih;

Please give entire sentences. It's hard to tell with phrases.

These have the same meaning/ Once = (at) one time.
I have seen him once.
I once saw him.
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I have seen him once.
I once saw him. I would say 'I saw him once.'
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The sentences as you wrote them are already complete. On second thought, yes, "once" means "one time" in either case.

Still, something appears different.

I have seen him once.
I once saw him.

Firstly, sentence stress is different.

Secondly, in the Past sentence, "once" seems to be just a decoration, i.e.

I once saw him.

is a
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iasadihI have seen him once.
To my ear, this strays slightly from idiomatic speech.

I have seen him, but only once.
I have only seen him once.
iasadihI once saw him.
This sounds incomplete to my ear.

I once saw him give money to a beggar.
I once saw him laugh behind her back.
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That's what I meant: "once" has different meanings.

Concerning "I once saw him",

would it sound okay if supplemented with "at a party" (which is just a cosmetic change) or do you mean that it is "see sb do sth" that is acceptable here (I wonder why that could be)?
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iasadihConcerning "I once saw him", would it sound okay if supplemented with "at a party" (which is just a cosmetic change)
Given that it expresses the specific circumstances under which you saw him, I don't know what you mean by 'cosmetic change'.

Nevertheless, "at a party" seems like a perfectly normal way to end the sentence.
iasad
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Let me make my point more clearly, then.

If a sentence

I once saw him at a party

is acceptable, then without at a party, it should be considered okay as well.

[I am referring to your comment that I once saw him sounded incomplete]
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If a sentence
I once saw him at a party
is acceptable, then without at a party, it should be considered okay as well. Not necessarily, that's not common or natural English.

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Okay, so how should

I once saw him

be corrected to sound natural, with minimum necessary modification?
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iasadihOkay, so how shouldI once saw himbe corrected to sound natural, with minimum necessary modification?
I saw him once.

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