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Anthon Posted 18 years ago
Grammar

I and he or he and I or me and he

Hi i want to ask about this:
do we use "I and he are going out" or "he and I are going out" or "He and me are going out" or the last one "me and he are going out" according to standard english.

Thanks
  

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" is the most common way. " but this is used very rarely.. As for, "I and he" I guess it is not used .

  • " is the most common way.
  • " but this is used very rarely..
  • As for, "I and he" I guess it is not used .
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23 Answers
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Hello,

"He and I are going out..." is the most common way. However, you can say "he and me..." but this is used very rarely..
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how does it sound rude? I mean "he and I" is just the switched in its position form of "I and he"
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I edited my post. In fact, I didn't mean it sounds rude. I tought in Turkish, sorry. To summarize:

he and I --ok

me and he--- not perfect but ok,

he and me--- not used much.

I and he--- I even didn't encounter this before.

Sorry for the edited post.
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So does it mean that in english we can't use "I and he are going out", "He and me" is not english and "me and he" is for informal/spoken english. Is that the rule?

Thanks
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Yes, don't use "I and he.."

"He and me" is very rarely used in English.

"Me and he" is not a perfect grammar. However, you can use this in spoken English.
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By the way, I hope you know the difference between subject and object position. What I wrote before goes for the subject positon. Rules change for the object positon.

Object position:

He and I ---- not perfect grammar but it can be used in informally.

"He and me" and "me and he" are both correct in this positon.

"I and he..."
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ok got it. you mean like this " he called me and he" and "he called he and me". Are those what you mean?
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Anthon in your sentence, "he and I are going out" is subject positon because "he and I" is the subject of the sentence. Follow the rules for the subject positon for this sentence. Object position is an additioanl information for you. BUT, "I and he are going out" is always wrong no matter whether it is object or subject position.
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well I really appreciate it, it's kind of you to tell me extra stuffs that make me more knowledgeable.

THANK YOU SO MUCH
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Here is my two cents:

He and I are going out.
=> Grammatically correct and also common usage

I and he are going out. => Grammatically correct, but I don't think it likely that a native speaker would use this word order.

Him and me are going out. => Informal usage

Me and him are going out. => Informal usage

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