How to pronounce often?

0 The former.0-

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01cite10Marvin A.12cite10The former.12br
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10I beg to differ: both pronunciations are used, accepted 01i00and 02i00correct. In other words, none is better than the other.0-

0>> I beg to differ: both pronunciations are used, accepted 01i00and 02i00correct. In other words, none is better than the other.<<02br
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00Oh really? I thought that the latter was rather stigmatized in British English.0-

0 The latter was previously the 'correct' version in British English but nowadays you will often hear often with the 't' as well. Either way is currently acceptable but I'd say that educated speakers still tend to miss out the t. 0-

0 This was one of my mother's pet hates - we would always be corrected for saying 'of-ten' rather than 'offen'. Another dictat was that 'forehead' be pronounced 'fo-rred'. 0-

0 The pronunciation with /t/ is a spelling pronunciation - it was pronounced without /t/ until the 1800s, when it began to be pronounced with /t/ because it was spelled with T. I think that the pronounciation of "forehead" that Ruby Rose describes is another example.0-

0 What a confusing topic. Gosh I need to post this question because I'm getting crazy.02br
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01b01i00How a PhD in English would pronounce Often in London?02br
00How do you pronoune this word?02br
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0 01b01i00How a PhD in English would pronounce Often in London? 01font00I don't know. I live in California.02font02br
00How do you pronoun01font00c02font00e this word? 01font00To rhyme with 01u00soften02u00, i.e., without the

0 >>The pronunciation with /t/ is a spelling pronunciation - it was pronounced without /t/ until the 1800s, when it began to be pronounced with /t/ because it was spelled with T. 02<<
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00Really? But the etymology of the word seems to indicate it had a "t" in it in both Old and Middle English. Did it drop off in Early Modern English? 0-

0I was under the impression that the pronunciation of "often" as "offen" dated from the early 17th century, in BrE; the reintroduction of "t" seems to be a 20th century phenomenon (dictionaries from the first half of the 20th century tend to omit the /t/ pronunciation).02br
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00In recordings of British English speakers from the first half of the 20th century, you sometimes