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Hktrader Posted 14 years ago
Grammar
How to distingulish between the usage of clauses and relative clause?
Hi, everyone, here is an example of Adjective clause in my grammar book.
e.g. Do you remember the place where we first met?
The book gives an idea that the above sentence can be analyzed in such way:
A)Do you remember the place (main clause)
B) where we first met? (Subordinate)
and it is an adjectival clause.
Although I can understand the content, I get confusion to the clauses(Noun, Adjectival, Adverbial) and relative clause.
I think: Do you remember the place where we first met? (where is the relative pronoun points to "the place", so it can also be a relative clause instead of adjectival clause.)
Can anyone tell me the clue to distinguish between of them?
another example:
e.g.He was taken to the police station where he proceeded to make a full confession.
At first I believe it is a relative clause again(where points to the police station before), but the book says it is a co-ordinate clause helping to further define the main clause before.
Ah..... I get a headache.....
e.g. Do you remember the place where we first met?
The book gives an idea that the above sentence can be analyzed in such way:
A)Do you remember the place (main clause)
B) where we first met? (Subordinate)
and it is an adjectival clause.
Although I can understand the content, I get confusion to the clauses(Noun, Adjectival, Adverbial) and relative clause.
I think: Do you remember the place where we first met? (where is the relative pronoun points to "the place", so it can also be a relative clause instead of adjectival clause.)
Can anyone tell me the clue to distinguish between of them?
another example:
e.g.He was taken to the police station where he proceeded to make a full confession.
At first I believe it is a relative clause again(where points to the police station before), but the book says it is a co-ordinate clause helping to further define the main clause before.
Ah..... I get a headache.....
Top answer
Hi A adjectival clause modifies a noun, further restricting or identifying it. ) my sister who lives near me (who lives next door - identifies which of my three sisters I am speaking about) the place where we first met? (identifies a particular place) But this one is not identifying a place, but continuing the action in the sentence He was taken to the police station where he proceeded to make a full confession.
- Hi A adjectival clause modifies a noun, further restricting or identifying it.
- ) my sister who lives near me (who lives next door - identifies which of my three sisters I am speaking about) the place where we first met?
- (identifies a particular place) But this one is not identifying a place, but continuing the action in the sentence He was taken to the police station where he proceeded to make a full confession.
- Note that you could use "and" in place of "where" without changing the essential meaning.
- Note that the syntax is still correct: He was taken to the police station and he proceeded to make a full confession.
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Hi
A adjectival clause modifies a noun, further restricting or identifying it. (You can also call it a relative clause.)
my sister who lives near me (who lives next door - identifies which of my three sisters I am speaking about)
the place where we first met? (identifies a particular place)
But this one is not identifying a place, but
A adjectival clause modifies a noun, further restricting or identifying it. (You can also call it a relative clause.)
my sister who lives near me (who lives next door - identifies which of my three sisters I am speaking about)
the place where we first met? (identifies a particular place)
But this one is not identifying a place, but
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AlpheccaStarsNote that you could use "and" in place of "where" without changing the essential meaning. Note that they syntax is still correct:He was taken to the police station and he proceeded to make a full confession.You cannot always do that:
This is the house where I was born.
Your clause
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The ideas was to distinguish a relative clause (adjectival) from one that is not.
Sometimes "where" is used to introduce a relative clause. Sometimes it introduces a coordinating (or subordinating) clause.
If it introduces a relative clause, you cannot substitute a coordinating conjunction and still have proper syntax.
Sometimes "where" is used to introduce a relative clause. Sometimes it introduces a coordinating (or subordinating) clause.
If it introduces a relative clause, you cannot substitute a coordinating conjunction and still have proper syntax.
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So, are you saying that the underlined clause in #1 below is not a relative clause, and that the one in #2 is?
1,He was taken to the police station where he proceeded to make a full confession.
2. This is the hous
1,He was taken to the police station where he proceeded to make a full confession.
2. This is the hous
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AlpheccaStarsThat is what the OP's text book said.No, it didn't. It did not mention relative clauses at all.
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O , yes! you are right!
Can I conclude your remark by that?
If the relative pronoun (when, where, who, whose, etc) cann't be replaced by and(anymore?), we can say the clause must be relative clause, otherwise, we cann't as it must be a kind of adjectival, adverbial or noun clause.
Thanks!
Can I conclude your remark by that?
If the relative pronoun (when, where, who, whose, etc) cann't be replaced by and(anymore?), we can say the clause must be relative clause, otherwise, we cann't as it must be a kind of adjectival, adverbial or noun clause.
Thanks!
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AlpheccaStarsHiA adjectival clause modifies a noun, further restricting or identifying it. (You can also call it a relative clause.)my sister who lives near me (who lives next door - identifies which of my three sisters I am speaking about)the place where we first met? (identifies a particular place)But this one is not identifying a place, but continuing the action in the
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