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Believer Posted 20 years ago
Grammar
How to apply the Guide?
Hi,
I was looking at David Appleyard's Guide to Article Usage in English and saw these two parts and am wondering how applicable these recommendations ?? are.
No article is needed for most places consisting of just the name of a person, or the name of a person/place followed by a noun. (Some examples given in the Guide are McDonalds and Kennedy Airport.)
The is also used in proper names consisting of noun(s) and/or adjective(s). (Some examples given are The Empire State Building and the English Channel.)
Where do you fit these hypothetical names in, the former one or the latter one, taking them as proper names?
1. Believer Hotel (I thought most proper hotel names need to have a determiner in the front of their names.)
2. Seoul Express Bus Terminal -- which one is applicable here?
3. Festival Station -- Which one is applicable here?
I was looking at David Appleyard's Guide to Article Usage in English and saw these two parts and am wondering how applicable these recommendations ?? are.
No article is needed for most places consisting of just the name of a person, or the name of a person/place followed by a noun. (Some examples given in the Guide are McDonalds and Kennedy Airport.)
The is also used in proper names consisting of noun(s) and/or adjective(s). (Some examples given are The Empire State Building and the English Channel.)
Where do you fit these hypothetical names in, the former one or the latter one, taking them as proper names?
1. Believer Hotel (I thought most proper hotel names need to have a determiner in the front of their names.)
2. Seoul Express Bus Terminal -- which one is applicable here?
3. Festival Station -- Which one is applicable here?
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Hi, Without looking at the suggested guidelines, here's what I'd instinctively say. 1. Believer Hotel The Believer Hotel.
- Hi, Without looking at the suggested guidelines, here's what I'd instinctively say.
- 1.
- Believer Hotel The Believer Hotel.
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- Seoul Express Bus Terminal The Seoul Express Bus Terminal.
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Hi,
Without looking at the suggested guidelines, here's what I'd instinctively say.
1. Believer Hotel The Believer Hotel.
2. Seoul Express Bus Terminal The Seoul Express Bus Terminal.
3. Festival Station Festival Station.
Best wishes, Clive
Without looking at the suggested guidelines, here's what I'd instinctively say.
1. Believer Hotel The Believer Hotel.
2. Seoul Express Bus Terminal The Seoul Express Bus Terminal.
3. Festival Station Festival Station.
Best wishes, Clive
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Thank you.
What I have a reservation about is about the situation where a proper name have a person's name as a part of its name. Would you still put the definite article the in front of the proper name?
eg,
John Doe Hotel -- still "The John Doe Hotel"??
John Doe Bus Terminal -- Still "The John Doe Bus Terminal"??
John Doe Building -- The John
What I have a reservation about is about the situation where a proper name have a person's name as a part of its name. Would you still put the definite article the in front of the proper name?
eg,
John Doe Hotel -- still "The John Doe Hotel"??
John Doe Bus Terminal -- Still "The John Doe Bus Terminal"??
John Doe Building -- The John
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Hi,
Yes, for the first three. No, for the stadium.
However, this kind of thing can be pretty idiomatic, so I'd hesitate about any definite rule.
One factor, for instance, is sometimes whether the place you are talking about is in the place where you live. eg My city only has one airport. I might call it 'Fred Smith airport'. But someone who lives out of town, and who
Yes, for the first three. No, for the stadium.
However, this kind of thing can be pretty idiomatic, so I'd hesitate about any definite rule.
One factor, for instance, is sometimes whether the place you are talking about is in the place where you live. eg My city only has one airport. I might call it 'Fred Smith airport'. But someone who lives out of town, and who
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Hi Believer
Here are my opinions:
The John Doe Hotel
The John Doe Bus Terminal (also possibly without "the")
The John Doe Building
John Doe Stadium
Here are my opinions:
The John Doe Hotel
The John Doe Bus Terminal (also possibly without "the")
The John Doe Building
John Doe Stadium
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Thank you.
Did you choose not to put "the" in front of "John Doe Stadium" because "Stadium" is not a building?
Did you choose not to put "the" in front of "John Doe Stadium" because "Stadium" is not a building?
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Thank you.
I was looking at the OWL Online Writing Lab and it noted the following:
Do not use the before:
names of rivers, oceans and seas (the Nile, the Pacific)
deserts, forests, gulfs, and peninsulas (the Sahara, the Black Forest, etc...)
My question is "Is that the fact that for those categories, the is not used regardless how exotic or even incredu
I was looking at the OWL Online Writing Lab and it noted the following:
Do not use the before:
names of rivers, oceans and seas (the Nile, the Pacific)
deserts, forests, gulfs, and peninsulas (the Sahara, the Black Forest, etc...)
My question is "Is that the fact that for those categories, the is not used regardless how exotic or even incredu
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Hi,
I was looking at the OWL Online Writing Lab and it noted the following:
Do not use the before:
names of rivers, oceans and seas (the Nile, the Pacific)
deserts, forests, gulfs, and peninsulas (the Sahara, the Black Forest, etc...)
Do y
I was looking at the OWL Online Writing Lab and it noted the following:
Do not use the before:
names of rivers, oceans and seas (the Nile, the Pacific)
deserts, forests, gulfs, and peninsulas (the Sahara, the Black Forest, etc...)
Do y
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Hi,
Sorry I accidentally typed the sentence on the forementioned online Lab wrong.
It should be like the below and is stated correctly now as:
Do use the before:
names of rivers, oceans and seas (the Nile, the Pacific)
desserts, forests, gulfs, and peninsulas (the Sahara, the Black Forest, etc...)
Many apologies.
Sorry I accidentally typed the sentence on the forementioned online Lab wrong.
It should be like the below and is stated correctly now as:
Do use the before:
names of rivers, oceans and seas (the Nile, the Pacific)
desserts, forests, gulfs, and peninsulas (the Sahara, the Black Forest, etc...)
Many apologies.
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Hi,
Do use the before:
names of rivers, oceans and seas (the Nile, the Pacific)
deserts, forests, gulfs, and peninsulas (the Sahara, the Black Forest, etc...)
My question is "Is that the fact that for those categories, the is not (?)
Do use the before:
names of rivers, oceans and seas (the Nile, the Pacific)
deserts, forests, gulfs, and peninsulas (the Sahara, the Black Forest, etc...)
My question is "Is that the fact that for those categories, the is not (?)
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