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Taka Posted 21 years ago
Grammar

How do you explain this

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00 Never before have we had so little time in which11i10____12i10. 12br
101:to do so much 12br
102:we will do so much 12br
103:it does so much 12br
104:we do so much12blockquote
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00Suppose you were-01del00I think some of you actually are02del00-a teacher. How do you explain to your students why the right answer is not #4 but #1? 0-
  

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0 The meanings are slightly different! 02br 02br 001. Means that we have to do more in less time.

  • 0 The meanings are slightly different!
  • 02br 02br 001.
  • Means that we have to do more in less time.
  • 02br 02br 004.
  • Means that we do a lot only occassionally!
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0 The meanings are slightly different! 02br
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001. Means that we have to do more in less time. 02br
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004. Means that we do a lot only occassionally! (sort of) 0-
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0 Hi guys, 02br
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00Never before have we had so little time in which11i10____12i10. 12br
101:to do so much 12br
102:we will do so much 12br
103:it does so much 12br
104:we do so much 12blockquote
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00I'd approach an explanation to my student
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00 It's because the Present Perfect puts the sentence into a 'past with impact on the present' timeframe, which is at odds with the future tense in #2 and the habitual/present tense in #4. The lack of tense in #1's infinitive avoids this problem. 12blockquote
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00Hi, Clive. 02br
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00When you say
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0 I would approach it as an extension of expressions consisting of the noun "time" plus an infinitive. Such expressions mean, of course, "time required (to ...)" or "time necessary (to ...)". 02br
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00The lesson should probably include "space" as well, and maybe "patience", "knowledge", etc., in short, all the sorts of things which are "had" and which might be necessary 
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0 Hi Taka, 02br
00What I mean is that when you say 'Never before have we had ...', I think you are saying some thing about both the past and the present, so it seems wrong to continue the sentence with a tense that refers only to the past, or only to the present, or even only to the future. So an infinitive is a way to avoid using a tense. 02br
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00I could be o
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00 I could be off base here. 12blockquote
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00No. Your analysis is persuasive. It's actually the closest to the way I look at it. 02br
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00 Where are other opinions when you need them? 12blockquote
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00?? What do you mean? I do appreciate others' opin
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0 I kind of disagree with CJ, because if it were a variant of 'time to do', it is impossible to explain why it would be unacceptable to say 'Never before have we had so little time 01b00 which to do in 02b00 . 02br
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00I think 'prep+relative pronoun+to do' might be essentially different from 'how to do' or 'where to go'. 0-
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0 A non-teacher's view: 02br
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001. Never before have we had | so little time | in which to do so much. 02br
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00Here, 'never before' controls the whole sentence. You can equally say 'Never before have we had to do so much in so little time'. 02br
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00The sentence refers to all the previous occasions when time was required and
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0 So, MrP, you don't think #4 is wrong? 0-
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0 "Time in which to do something" is a literal style of "time to do something". This "which" is not an interrogative (like "what" in "what to do", a nominal phrase) but a relative to make it clear that the following infinitive is used as an adjectival phrase. Why don't people say "time which to do something in"? I guess it is because grammarians old days thought a relative clause should not end

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