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How do they differ from each other?
1. Bonsai are trees and plants grown in containers in such a way that they look their most beautiful even prettier than thosegrowing in the wild.
2. Bonsai are trees and plants grown in containers in such a way so they look their most beautiful even prettier than those growingin the wild.
3. Bonsai are trees and plants grown in containers in such a way so that they look their most beautiful even prettier than thosegrowing in the wild.
The three sentences differ in form only in the part of 'in such a way that, so, so that', yet the three do seem to have no differences whatsoever in sense from each other. Do they?
TIA
CK
2. Bonsai are trees and plants grown in containers in such a way so they look their most beautiful even prettier than those growingin the wild.
3. Bonsai are trees and plants grown in containers in such a way so that they look their most beautiful even prettier than thosegrowing in the wild.
The three sentences differ in form only in the part of 'in such a way that, so, so that', yet the three do seem to have no differences whatsoever in sense from each other. Do they?
TIA
CK
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[nq:1]1. Bonsai are trees and plants grown in containers in such a way that they look their most beautiful even prettier ... that', yet the three do seem to have no differences whatsoever in sense from each other.
- [nq:1]1.
- Bonsai are trees and plants grown in containers in such a way that they look their most beautiful even prettier ...
- that', yet the three do seem to have no differences whatsoever in sense from each other.
- Do they?
- TIA CK[/nq] I don't think there's a difference in meaning, but I wouldn't use 'so' in that context and I certainly wouldn't use 'so that'.
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[nq:1]1. Bonsai are trees and plants grown in containers in such a way that they look their most beautiful even prettier ... that', yet the three do seem to have no differences whatsoever in sense from each other. Do they? TIA CK[/nq]
I don't think there's a difference in meaning, but I wouldn't use 'so' in that context and I certainly wouldn't use 'so that'. I can't think of a good reason. I
I don't think there's a difference in meaning, but I wouldn't use 'so' in that context and I certainly wouldn't use 'so that'. I can't think of a good reason. I
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[nq:1]1. Bonsai are trees and plants grown in containers in such a way that they look their most beautiful even prettier ... so, so that', yet the three do seem to have no differences whatsoever in sense from each other. Do they?[/nq]
I agree with Cheryl's selection of your first example as the aptest. For your second and third examples, while I do not detect any difference in meaning from the
I agree with Cheryl's selection of your first example as the aptest. For your second and third examples, while I do not detect any difference in meaning from the
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Pat wrote on Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:48:36 -0600:
[nq:2]1. Bonsai are trees and plants grown in containers in ... no differences whatsoever in sense from each other. Do they?[/nq]
None of the three sentences expresses the principles of Bonsai, to try to grow a small plant so that it imitates a much larger wild one, so why worry?
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland
Email, with obv
[nq:2]1. Bonsai are trees and plants grown in containers in ... no differences whatsoever in sense from each other. Do they?[/nq]
None of the three sentences expresses the principles of Bonsai, to try to grow a small plant so that it imitates a much larger wild one, so why worry?
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland
Email, with obv
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In our last episode, (Email Removed), the lovely and talented chance broadcast on alt.usage.english:
[nq:1]1. Bonsai are trees and plants grown in containers in such a way that they look their most beautiful even prettier ... so, so that', yet the three do seem to have no differences whatsoever in sense from each other. Do they?[/nq]
"In such a way" and "so" mean the same thing in this con
[nq:1]1. Bonsai are trees and plants grown in containers in such a way that they look their most beautiful even prettier ... so, so that', yet the three do seem to have no differences whatsoever in sense from each other. Do they?[/nq]
"In such a way" and "so" mean the same thing in this con
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[nq:1]1. Bonsai are trees and plants grown in containers in such a way that they look their most beautiful even prettier ... so, so that', yet the three do seem to have no differences whatsoever in sense from each other. Do they?[/nq]
This seems simpler and equivalent, to me:
Bonsai are trees and (other) plants grown in containers to look their most beautiful...
John
This seems simpler and equivalent, to me:
Bonsai are trees and (other) plants grown in containers to look their most beautiful...
John
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[nq:1]1. Bonsai are trees and plants grown in containers in such a way that the=y look their most beautiful even prettier ... so, so that', yet the three do seem to have no differences whatsoever in sense from eac=h other. Do they?[/nq]
(2) and (3) are ungrammatical. "Such" takes "that," not "so."
Also, as others have mentioned it's not exactly a true statement.
(2) and (3) are ungrammatical. "Such" takes "that," not "so."
Also, as others have mentioned it's not exactly a true statement.
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[nq:2]1. Bonsai are trees and plants grown in containers in ... no differences whatsoever in sense from each other. Do they?[/nq]
[nq:1]This seems simpler and equivalent, to me: Bonsai are trees and (other) plants grown in containers to look their most beautiful...[/nq]
or:
Bonsai are trees and (other) plants grown in containers so as to look their most beautiful...
BTW I consider
[nq:1]This seems simpler and equivalent, to me: Bonsai are trees and (other) plants grown in containers to look their most beautiful...[/nq]
or:
Bonsai are trees and (other) plants grown in containers so as to look their most beautiful...
BTW I consider
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[nq:2]1. Bonsai are trees and plants grown in containers in ... whatsoever in sense from each other. Do they? TIA CK[/nq]
[nq:1]I don't think there's a difference in meaning, but I wouldn't use 'so' in that context and I certainly wouldn't ... are trees and plants grown in containers so they look their most beautiful even prettier than those growing in the wild.'[/nq]
Both of yours, it see
[nq:1]I don't think there's a difference in meaning, but I wouldn't use 'so' in that context and I certainly wouldn't ... are trees and plants grown in containers so they look their most beautiful even prettier than those growing in the wild.'[/nq]
Both of yours, it see
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BArt Mathias
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