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New2grammar Posted 18 years ago
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The fundraising starts today for five weeks except Mondays and Fridays. Booths are open 8 to 10am, 12 to 2 pm and 4 to 6 pm. On Saturdays, some booths are not open and the operating hours are 2 to 6 pm.

Is the above natural?
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starts today and runs daily for five weeks, It's a LOT of information. A chart or bullet list would be better. m.

  • starts today and runs daily for five weeks, It's a LOT of information.
  • A chart or bullet list would be better.
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starts today and runs daily for five weeks,

It's a LOT of information. A chart or bullet list would be better.

Sunday: 8 a.m. to 10 a.m., noon to 2 p.m., 4 p.m. to 6 p.m.

Monday: Closed

Tuesday: etc
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HI,

The fundraising starts today for five weeks, excluding Mondays and Fridays. On Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays, booths are open 8 to 10 am, 12 to 2 pm and 4 to 6 pm. On Saturdays, some are not open and the hours are 2 to 6 pm.

I've assumed that they are not open on Sundays.
Clive
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How would you read the chart, GG? Imagine someone is asking you about the fundraising over the phone. Which is more natural to say, sentences like mine or points as you've suggested?
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Over the phone? I'd group the days that have the same hours: On Sundays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thurdsays, the booth is open from....

On Saturdays, it's open from....

It's closed on Mondays and Fridays.
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Clive, I see that you specifically mentioned the days of the week. Is that really necessary? This could be surprising to some people but Sundays are work days for some states in my country.

Also, what's the difference between excluding and except? I don't see any problem with except.
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Hi,
Clive, I see that you specifically mentioned the days of the week. Is that really necessary?As GG pointed out, the exceptions involve various days of the week, so you need to mention them.

This could be surprising to some people but Sundays are work days for some states in my country.OK, so Sundays are not an exception.

Also, what's the difference between excluding and e
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CliveI would use 'except' in a case where you have already mentioned the 'units' involved
Crystal clear!
CliveIn addition, your sentence is awkward because you are mixing in one sentence the two ideas of 'starts from today' and 'here are the days the fund-raising occurs'.
Could you expand on this please? I don't see why i
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Hi again,

In addition, your sentence is awkward because you are mixing in one sentence the two ideas of 'starts from today' and 'here are the days the fund-raising occurs'.

Could you expand on this please? I don't see why it's not possible to combine them. It's possible, but when I read your sentence I have to pause for a moment to separate in my mind the two ideas.
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How about "Starting from today for five weeks, we will have ..."? Does this bother you?
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Hi,
No, it doesn't. But now you have in effect omitted the second idea of 'here are the days the fund-raising occurs'.

In addition, I'd prefer to put what I see as the main point at the front,
ie " For five weeks, starting from today, we will have ..."

Clive

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