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Holmes & Watson - not that there's anything wrong with that
Bert! Avert your eyes!
New Sherlock Holmes Film to Explore Homoerotic Relationship Between Lead Characters
New York Post
Tuesday, August 04, 2009
Guy Ritchie's plan to put a gay spin on the relationship of Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson in his new movie about the detective and his sidekick could backfire.
Robert Downey Jr., who plays Holmes, has revealed the crimebuster will sleep with and have sweaty grappling scenes with Watson, played by Jude Law, in "Sherlock Holmes," due out Christmas Day.
"We're two men who happen to be roommates, wrestle a lot and share a bed. It's bad-ass," Downey told Britain's News of the World. Added much-in-the-news Law: "Guy wanted to make this about the relationship between Watson and Holmes. They're both mean and complicated."
But Michael Medved, a former Post movie critic, says Downey and Law must be joking. "There's not a seething, bubbling hunger to see straight stars impersonating homosexuals," Medved told us. "I think they're just trying to generate controversy . . . They know that making Holmes and Watson homosexual will take away two-thirds of their box office. Who is going to want to see Downey Jr. and Law make out? I don't think it would be appealing to women. Straight men don't want to see it."
Roger Johnson, editor of the Sherlock Holmes Journal, observed that in Arthur Conan Doyle's original stories, "Watson is something of a ladies' man, but a faithful husband to his wife. And Holmes is essentially asexual, with no erotic interest in women or men."
"If you can, tell me something happy."
- Marybones
New Sherlock Holmes Film to Explore Homoerotic Relationship Between Lead Characters
New York Post
Tuesday, August 04, 2009
Guy Ritchie's plan to put a gay spin on the relationship of Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson in his new movie about the detective and his sidekick could backfire.
Robert Downey Jr., who plays Holmes, has revealed the crimebuster will sleep with and have sweaty grappling scenes with Watson, played by Jude Law, in "Sherlock Holmes," due out Christmas Day.
"We're two men who happen to be roommates, wrestle a lot and share a bed. It's bad-ass," Downey told Britain's News of the World. Added much-in-the-news Law: "Guy wanted to make this about the relationship between Watson and Holmes. They're both mean and complicated."
But Michael Medved, a former Post movie critic, says Downey and Law must be joking. "There's not a seething, bubbling hunger to see straight stars impersonating homosexuals," Medved told us. "I think they're just trying to generate controversy . . . They know that making Holmes and Watson homosexual will take away two-thirds of their box office. Who is going to want to see Downey Jr. and Law make out? I don't think it would be appealing to women. Straight men don't want to see it."
Roger Johnson, editor of the Sherlock Holmes Journal, observed that in Arthur Conan Doyle's original stories, "Watson is something of a ladies' man, but a faithful husband to his wife. And Holmes is essentially asexual, with no erotic interest in women or men."
"If you can, tell me something happy."
- Marybones
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So in this movie, Sherlock is presented as being a Holmesosexual?
- So in this movie, Sherlock is presented as being a Holmesosexual?
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This sounds like a truly hideous idea. There is no hint in the canon that Sherlock and Dr. Watson had the slightest homosexual inclination. Why twist things around like this? It's one thing if there had been an underlying subtext in the original stories, which couldn't be spelled out because of the time A.C. Doyle lived in. I've read all of the Holmes stories and novels, and there was no subtext a
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[nq:1]But Michael Medved, a former Post movie critic, says Downey and Law must be joking. "There's not a seething, bubbling ... and Law make out? I don't think it would be appealing to women. Straight men don't want to see it."[/nq]
Thats equating it to ****, because Medved has issues with sexual imagery. I just wanna see a good movie, it doesnt matter who is gay, if a scene doesnt work it doe
Thats equating it to ****, because Medved has issues with sexual imagery. I just wanna see a good movie, it doesnt matter who is gay, if a scene doesnt work it doe
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[nq:1]Bert! Avert your eyes![/nq]
Sadly - because it would be an interesting slant, though hardly a new one, having been done several times in different mediums - it seems that this is pure nonsense, arising from some crowd-teasing remarks by Downey jnr.
There's no naked wrestling in the (admittedly early) draft of the film that I have, though (and I hope this hasn't been rewritten in
Sadly - because it would be an interesting slant, though hardly a new one, having been done several times in different mediums - it seems that this is pure nonsense, arising from some crowd-teasing remarks by Downey jnr.
There's no naked wrestling in the (admittedly early) draft of the film that I have, though (and I hope this hasn't been rewritten in
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"MC"
[nq:1]Guy Ritchie's plan to put a gay spin on the relationship of Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson in his new movie about the detective and his sidekick could backfire.[/nq]
I saw the trailer a couple of weeks ago. I don't recall it as being particularly gay, but Downey shows his scrawny bare chest quite a bit, and there are some sexually-tinged scenes. It had a sort of jokey JEKYLL AND
[nq:1]Guy Ritchie's plan to put a gay spin on the relationship of Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson in his new movie about the detective and his sidekick could backfire.[/nq]
I saw the trailer a couple of weeks ago. I don't recall it as being particularly gay, but Downey shows his scrawny bare chest quite a bit, and there are some sexually-tinged scenes. It had a sort of jokey JEKYLL AND
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"Betterduck"
[nq:1]Thats equating it to ****, because Medved has issues with sexual imagery. I just wanna see a good movie, it doesnt matter who is gay,[/nq]
How would you feel about a gay KING KONG?
Martin B
[nq:1]Thats equating it to ****, because Medved has issues with sexual imagery. I just wanna see a good movie, it doesnt matter who is gay,[/nq]
How would you feel about a gay KING KONG?
Martin B
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[nq:1]Roger Johnson, editor of the Sherlock Holmes Journal, observed that in Arthur Conan Doyle's original stories, "Watson is something of a ladies' man, but a faithful husband to his wife. And Holmes is essentially asexual, with no erotic interest in women or men."[/nq]
But he does go for fruit in a big way.
"Lemon entry, my dear Watson...?"
Sp.
But he does go for fruit in a big way.
"Lemon entry, my dear Watson...?"
Sp.
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"MC"
[nq:1]And Holmes is essentially asexual, with no erotic interest in women or men."[/nq]
Bert will probably correct me, but wasn't there one woman Holmes was interested in because he considered her his intellectual equal? She was married or something, so a romance was out of the question.
Martin B
[nq:1]And Holmes is essentially asexual, with no erotic interest in women or men."[/nq]
Bert will probably correct me, but wasn't there one woman Holmes was interested in because he considered her his intellectual equal? She was married or something, so a romance was out of the question.
Martin B
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[nq:1]"MC"[/nq]
[nq:2]And Holmes is essentially asexual, with no erotic interest in women or men."[/nq]
[nq:1]Bert will probably correct me, but wasn't there one woman Holmes was interested in because he considered her his intellectual equal? She was married or something, so a romance was out of the question.[/nq]
A Scandal in Bohemia, on which the film The Zero Effect was based.
[nq:2]And Holmes is essentially asexual, with no erotic interest in women or men."[/nq]
[nq:1]Bert will probably correct me, but wasn't there one woman Holmes was interested in because he considered her his intellectual equal? She was married or something, so a romance was out of the question.[/nq]
A Scandal in Bohemia, on which the film The Zero Effect was based.
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