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WANG CHUN Posted 19 years ago
Linguistics Studies

Hisself instead of himself.

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I wonder why some nonstandard dialects of English use the reflexive pronouns hisself instead of himself.

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One probable reason is that it is more regular than the standard forms. The possessive pronoun is used in almost all cases: myself, yourself, herself, ourselves. The exceptions are himself and themselves. So hisself and theirselves are attempts to regularize the pattern.
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Mister MicawberA poor education?
That must be a mistake, right?

I don't know why they use it, but Alienvoord might be right. I think I heard "theyself", but maybe I misheard it and it was actually "theirself" pronounced without the R.
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In certain dialects of English, for instance African American Vernacular English (AAVE), reflexive pronouns follow a different morphological rule than the standard variety. In Standard American English, we might say "himself" and in AAVE "hisslef" is commonly used, as you point out. Likewise, SAE prefers "themselves" while AAVE prefers "theirselves." Dialects that use these nonstandard reflexiv
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Maybe like with the Irish the "own" is understood -

His (own) self
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It's possibly an innate intelligence with regards to correct grammatical usage which you misinterpret as a poor education
Possibly you mistake correct usage in defiance of omnipresent popular incorrect usage as a lack of education.
After all, you wouldn't say "he went out to him car and sat in him driver seat and drove to him place of employment, so why on Earth -or any other planet, for t
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Using the word "theirself" would imply collective ownership of one self shared among many people, such as the "Borg" in Star Trek episodes.
"Their selves", or "their-selves" would be technically correct.
Saying "his self", or "his-self" would be technically correct, but only a few of us really neurotic people actually care about technical correctness any more (wink, haha, etc.)
The Bri
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brianb65101Saying "his self", or "his-self" would be technically correct, but only a few of us really neurotic people actually care about technical correctness any more (wink, haha, etc.)
Those words are not technically correct. You might think them more logical, but they are, in most varieties of standard English, incorrect.
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Well, now we come back to accepted usage... which in this case probably came about because the British didn't want to pronounce two "s"es back-to-back as the word(s) his-self would necessitate.
So, all of these centuries later, we're stuck with "himself".
Again, popular mis-usage wins, and the silent minority is over-ruled.
As to which is technically correct, the fact that one is taugh

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