Her...Me vs. She...I

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"I was fuller than the princess was at the party, her with exotic foods, and me with these meager leftovers."

In this case, is the person speaking fine in using "her" and "me" in that context, instead of "she" and "I"? That is, are the two women here object pronouns or subject pronouns?

Thanks.

Grammarfreak · Accepted Answer

Snarf"I was fuller than the princess was at the party, her with exotic foods, and me with these meager leftovers."

It sure sounded odd to me. No one would say something like that! You were eating left-overs at a party? What do you consider exotic ?

DO you mean to say : I ate more than the princess?

Snarf · Answer

The woman talking is referring to feeling very full, yes. No, she was not eating leftovers at the party. That's what she was full on, on a different day. She wasn't even at the party. The princess was at the party. There's nothing there about eating the leftovers at the party. The exotic foods were being eaten at the party, as stated. What does it matter what I consider exotic? I still need an answer to my original question.

grammarfreakDO you mean to say : I ate more than the princess?

No. She just felt fuller than her. This has nothing to do with quantifying food. And, actually (not that this really matters for the OP), it should say those meager leftovers, not these. In its context, you'd know exactly which leftovers she's speaking of. And I have no idea what is so unusual about what is being said that you're absolutizing that no one would ever say something like that. Yes, they would. What's so weird about it, anyway? The comparative "fuller than" that you highlighted?

Grammarfreak · Answer

Snarf,

Snarfwoman talking is referring to feeling very full, yes. No, she was not eating leftovers at the party. That's what she was full on, on a different day.

I was only giving your an observation point of view from a reader's perspective. All that explanations and justifications are fine, but only known to you. Your sentence: "I was fuller than the Princess was at the party, her with exotic foods, and me with these meager leftovers.". Not only is it unidiomatic, it is also not a grammatically correct sentence, not to mention being clear.

SnarfThe princess was at the party. There's nothing there about eating the leftovers at the party

So two women were at the party talking about being "full" and exotic food, without an adequate context, what do you expect the readers perceive?

SnarfShe just felt fuller than her. This has nothing to do with quantifying food. And, actually (not that this really matters for the OP), it should say those meager leftovers, not these. In its context, you'd know exactly which leftovers she's speaking of. And I have no idea what is so unusual about what is being said that you're absolutizing that no one would ever say something like that.

In my opinion, "the" is what you should use, not "these", nor "those". I would say it again. No one would say it in the pattern of your questioned sentence in which it was written in natural English.
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Snarf · Answer

grammarfreakit is also not a grammatically correct sentence

How so? What is grammatically incorrect about it?

grammarfreakSo two women were at the party talking about being "full" and exotic food, without an adequate context, what do you expect the readers perceive?

No, I did not say that. The person talking is a woman. The only other woman spoken of is the princess and she was at the party. And the speaker can't be talking while at the party, because the party is spoken of in the past tense. It already happened. And I wasn't going to copy and paste the entire paragraph or page that the sentence is in here, as there was no need for contextualization for my original query. It's a digression.

grammarfreakSometimes, constructive criticism may sound harsh and seem hard to take

I do not find you harsh. I just don't really know what you're talking about is the problem.

You know what, though? None of this really matters, because I got my answer for the original pronoun question already from somebody else, so it's okay.

CalifJim · Answer

Snarf"her" and "me" ... "she" and "I"

I see both in this kind of structure. I don't see anything objectionable about 'her' and 'me' as used in this example, but then there's no reason to object to the alternative 'she' and 'I' either.

CJ

Snarf · Answer

CalifJim Snarf"her" and "me" ... "she" and "I"I see both in this kind of structure. I don't see anything objectionable about 'her' and 'me' as used in this example, but then there's no reason to object to the alternative 'she' and 'I' either.CJ

Thanks, Cali. That's what I figured. Just wanted to make sure.

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