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Rankles Posted 19 years ago
Grammar

helping verbs

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00Ok I'll try to explain this as simply as I can...02br
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00If we take the sentence 'The King rides the horse', King is the subject and the horse is the object. Easy stuff. Now in Old English, we would have different words for 'the' for each noun in this case, 'se' and 'oaet' which would show which of the two was subject and object, however this has now obviously fallen out of use. However my point is that due to the noun's position and usage in the sentence the definite article changes.02br
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00Using this as an example, I am trying to explain to a person I know why how she speaks is incorrect. She continually uses terms such as 'I done it', 'I seen it' and such and I figure in a similar way that there is a subject and object with nouns, there would be one with verbs in the following sentences.02br
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00I ate/I have eaten.02br
00I did/I have done.02br
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00Now I am trying to explain to her why the latter forms of the verbs 'to eat' and 'to do' require the use of the verb 'to have' prior to them in order to be correct English, but I can't explain it withough some sort of term. Is there a term for the verb 'to have' in this case in a similar vein of the subject/object example used for nouns?02br
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00I don't know, something like 'secondary verb' which would explain why the verb 'ate' would change to 'eaten' after the addition of the verb 'have' beforehand.02br
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00I'm assuming it's a kind of tense in which I am unfamiliar with the name.02br
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0 Hi, if I'm not mistaken, "seen" and "done" are 01i 00past participles02i 00, "have seen" and "have done" are verbs in the present perfect tense, and in those verbs "have" is an 01i 00auxiliary verb02i 00. 02br 02br 00 When you learn a new verb, you need three forms of that verb, infinitive, past tense, and past participle:02br 00 eat (bare infinitive) ------------ ate (past tense) ------------ eaten (past participle)02br 00 see (bare infinitive) ------------ saw (past tense) ----------- seen (past participle)02br 00 ... 02br 02br 00 Past participles are used with auxiliary verbs (but sometimes they can also be used as adjectives):02br 00 I have eaten that stuff --------> (present perfect tense) auxiliary "to have" + past participle02br 00 That stuff was eaten ----------> (passive form) auxiliary "to be" + past participle02br 00 That stuff has been eaten ---> (passive form) auxiliary "to be" + past participle (NB: the auxiliary verb is "to be" in passive forms.

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  • 0 Hi, if I'm not mistaken, "seen" and "done" are 01i 00past participles02i 00, "have seen" and "have done" are verbs in the present perfect tense, and in those verbs "have" is an 01i 00auxiliary verb02i 00.
  • 02br 02br 00 When you learn a new verb, you need three forms of that verb, infinitive, past tense, and past participle:02br 00 eat (bare infinitive) ------------ ate (past tense) ------------ eaten (past participle)02br 00 see (bare infinitive) ------------ saw (past tense) ----------- seen (past participle)02br 00 ...
  • 02br 02br 00 Past participles are used with auxiliary verbs (but sometimes they can also be used as adjectives):02br 00 I have eaten that stuff --------> (present perfect tense) auxiliary "to have" + past participle02br 00 That stuff was eaten ----------> (passive form) auxiliary "to be" + past participle02br 00 That stuff has been eaten ---> (passive form) auxiliary "to be" + past participle (NB: the auxiliary verb is "to be" in passive forms.
  • In this example, it's in the present perfect tense, has been, which needs "to have" as auxiliary verb.
  • That's why in the end we get has + been + eaten, one auxiliary verb and two past participles)02br 02br 00I don't know if that can help you at all 050010id1
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0 Hi, if I'm not mistaken, "seen" and "done" are 01i00past participles02i00, "have seen" and "have done" are verbs in the present perfect tense, and in those verbs "have" is an 01i00auxiliary verb02i00. 02br
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0 01i00has/have/had02i00 followed by a past participle would be called 01u00auxiliary02u00 verbs. To make it even simpler, some people call them 01u00helper02u00 or 01u00helping02u00 verbs.02br
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0 That's spot on, thank you.0-
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01cite10CalifJim12cite11i10has/have/had12i10 followed by a past participle would be called 11u10auxiliary12u10 verbs. To make it even simpler, some people call them 11u10helper12u10 or 11u10helping12u10 verbs.12br
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0<Noooooo way. It is a finite verb phrase whose first verb is an auxiliary.>02br
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00I think the poster meant to distinguish between "have"(full verb) and "have" (auxiliary). So, it's true that when has/have/had are followed by a p.p., they are being used as auxiliaries.0-
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01i10has/have/had12i10 followed by a past participle would be called 11u10auxiliary12u10 verb11b10s12b10.12blockquote
10I believe I see the point of confusion. The last word (01i00
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0 Thanks that helped alot!!! 0-
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what are intransitive verbs
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Anonymouswhat are intransitive verbs

Hi,

An intransitive verb is a verb that does not need a direct object to complete its meaning.
EX: Eat, sleep are intransitive verbs. - 'I eat then I sleep'.

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