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He or him which is correct?

0 Is "It won't be he who gets fired" or "It won't be him who gets fired" correct? 02br
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00And can you give your reasons for why the correct one is correct please? 0-
  

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0 If you were to phrase it prepositionally, 02br 00It was him, to whom the pinkslip was addressed, then it was him- but 02br 00It was he who laughed last, and laughed best, 02br 00because he hated his boss 02br 00ED: If you remove the 00 and the 00 then you have 02br 00"he gets fired"- other words: removing added information often clarifies 02br 00the subject and verb form in a sentence 0-

  • 0 If you were to phrase it prepositionally, 02br 00It was him, to whom the pinkslip was addressed, then it was him- but 02br 00It was he who laughed last, and laughed best, 02br 00because he hated his boss 02br 00ED: If you remove the 00 and the 00 then you have 02br 00"he gets fired"- other words: removing added information often clarifies 02br 00the subject and verb form in a sentence 0-
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0 If you were to phrase it prepositionally, 02br
00It was him, to whom the pinkslip was addressed, then it was him- but 02br
00It was he who laughed last, and laughed best, 02br
00because he hated his boss 02br
00ED: If you remove the 00 and the 00 then you have 02br
00"he gets fired"- other words: removing added information of
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0 This is a passive structure. (Get + object + past participle) 02br
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00Someone is about to be fired (by somebody) but the person who is fired (by somebody) won't be Guest. 02br
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00In a passive structure our interest is in the person or thing that experiences the action, rather than in what or who performs the action. So in your sentence, we are i
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0 "It won't be he who gets fired" is correct. 02br
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00In English we have only three cases: nominative, objective, and genitive (possessive). All subjects and subject complements are in the nominative case and all objects are in the objective case. (The genetive case doesn't enter into this discussion.) We say, for example, "I go to the store" rather than "Me go to th
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0 Bravo e mille grazzi 0-
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0 Kenny wrote: 02br
00All subjects and subject complements are in the nominative case ... 02br
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00JTT: This is simply not true of the English that is used today. 02br
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00There are a number of constructions where both

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0 I believe that JTT's assertion is true largely based upon conversational and not written 02br
00English, because of the fast pace of today's lifestyles and information sharing. In 02br
00conventional terms, and that means writing and public speaking, I submit Kenny's 02br
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0 Yes, but ... 02br
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001. There is virtually no formal situation in which the sentence will ever come up. Therefore it is never really necessary to make the choice of 'he' vs. 'him' in such a situation. 02br
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002. There is virtually no informal situation in which the sentence would be uttered in exactly those words. It borders on the unidiomati
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0 Certainly, there is the tendency of which you speak, Jim, but I'm not certain it's as pronounced as you suggest. 02br
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00103 English pages for "He won't be the one who". 02br
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0030 English pages for "He won't be the one that". 02br
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0065 English pages for "It won't be him that". 02br
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0I apparently misunderstood the initial question and/or the premise behind this forum. I assumed the writer wanted to know if "It wasn't he who got fired" or "It wasn't him who got fired" was correct. Since "he" is the subject complement, I said that that "he"was correct. 02br
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00Just the Truth decided that this is simply not true of the English used today. He says t
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00Calif Jim argues that there is no situation in which this sentence will ever occur, so why worry. Well, let's say someone calls Calif Jim on the phone and says "Hey, Jim, is that you?" does Jim answer "Yes, it is I" or "Yes, it is me"? Needless to say, it doesn't really matter, but, contrary to Calif Jim's belief, it is a situation that occurs frequently. What

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