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Icy_blue Posted 20 years ago
Grammar

Have or had?

I saw the following sentence in the reuters website:

From shame and scandal to fame and glory in a month -- never have the two faces of Italian football been so sharply contrasting as in the past weeks.

But I think have should be replaced by hadto make sense. Am I wrong? Thank you for your opinionEmotion: smile
  

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so far (up till now) . 'had' is not ok here.

  • so far (up till now) .
  • 'had' is not ok here.
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Never have been the football...so far (up till now) .
'had' is not ok here.
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Thank you.

Could it be like these?

From shame and scandal to fame and glory in a month -- never had the two faces of Italian football so sharply contrasted as was in the past weeks.

From shame and scandal to fame and glory in a month -- never had the two faces of Italian football so sharply contrasted as happened in the past weeks.
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Icy_blueFrom shame and scandal to fame and glory in a month -- never have the two faces of Italian football been so sharply contrasting as in the past weeks.
But I think have should be replaced by had to make sense. Am I wrong?Yes, you are wrong: this continues up to the present moment, throughout the last weeks, thus has
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Both have and had are correct. have indicates the present point of view. had is used to indicate a past point of view. Obviously the author wanted to relate these events from the present point of view.
In short, no, it is not necessary to replace anything in order to make sense of the sentence.

CJ
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From shame and scandal to fame and glory in a month -- never had the two faces of Italian football so sharply contrasted as was in the past weeks.

From shame and scandal to fame and glory in a month -- never had the two faces of Italian football so sharply contrasted as happened in the past weeks.

a. Could it be written in the way that

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