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SuperESL Posted 12 years ago
Grammar

have no claims on....

Hello,

Can I say:

"These people are so beyond hope that they have no claims on others trying to rescue them."

I particularly want to explore how the phrase "have no claims on" (in the sense that 'not entitle to') can be used in this context.

Thank you.
  

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Consider the broad idea.. eg Tom has no claim on Jim This needs a context where one might think that Jim has some obligation to help Tom. eg They may be brothers, but in a situation where years ago Tom betrayed Jim.

  • Consider the broad idea..
  • eg Tom has no claim on Jim This needs a context where one might think that Jim has some obligation to help Tom.
  • eg They may be brothers, but in a situation where years ago Tom betrayed Jim.
  • I don't see this kind of scenario in your example.
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Consider the broad idea..
eg Tom has no claim on Jim This needs a context where one might think that Jim has some obligation to help Tom.
eg They may be brothers, but in a situation where years ago Tom betrayed Jim.

I don't see this kind o
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Hi,

The context is in the rest of the paragraph in which the sentence is embedded. I am trying to figure out the syntactic aspect of the usage of the phrase 'have claim on sb', especially in regard to the kinds of structure that are allowed to follow it.

Is "......they have no claim on others trying to rescue them" acceptable? or should it be "......they have no claim on others t
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Generally speaking, the phrase is not followed by anything long and complicated.

.....they have no claim on others trying to rescue them acceptable? No
.....they have no claim on others to rescue them? Yes
.....they have no claim on others' attempts to rescue them?
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Thank you. I generally stick to the authoritative online dictationaries as they are, well, authoritative. I am sure the Internet is filled with finely turned out sentences but there is also much trash. The problem for an ESL learner is he or she may not have the natural ear to distinguish reliably between the two every time. I usually turn to the dictionaries first. If I don't get an answer I come
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I understand completely.

It's so interesting to talk to people learning English, because many of them approach it very analytically in a way that native speakers do not.

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