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Lucas21c Posted 13 years ago
Grammar
Have, let, make
Linda had her arms fractured.
I know what the above sentence means.
1. If I say, "Linda let/make her arms fractured," are they different from the above one? If there are any differences among them, in terms of meaning, could you explain to me what they are?
2. Does the sentence has any difference from "Her arms fractured." in temrs of nuance? I'd like to know why the English native speakers prefer that form(Subject+have+Object+V-ed) though they already have another simpler and shorter form to convey the same meaning/idea.
(I really hope you do not misunderstand my question. It is not a stupid about why you do not follow the most efficient way. I just like to know whether there are any difference or any reason that the native speakers say so instead of the normal one without 'have.')
I know what the above sentence means.
1. If I say, "Linda let/make her arms fractured," are they different from the above one? If there are any differences among them, in terms of meaning, could you explain to me what they are?
2. Does the sentence has any difference from "Her arms fractured." in temrs of nuance? I'd like to know why the English native speakers prefer that form(Subject+have+Object+V-ed) though they already have another simpler and shorter form to convey the same meaning/idea.
(I really hope you do not misunderstand my question. It is not a stupid about why you do not follow the most efficient way. I just like to know whether there are any difference or any reason that the native speakers say so instead of the normal one without 'have.')
Top answer
I know what the above sentence means. Are you sure? It means that Linda asked someone to break her arms and they did, or it means that it was noticed that Linda's arms were broken.
- I know what the above sentence means.
- Are you sure?
- It means that Linda asked someone to break her arms and they did, or it means that it was noticed that Linda's arms were broken.
- Why are you working with such a bizarre, not to say ghoulish, sentence?
- CJ
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lucas21cLinda had her arms fractured.I know what the above sentence means.Are you sure? It means that Linda asked someone to break her arms and they did, or it means that it was noticed that Linda's arms were broken.
Why are you working with such a bizarre, not to say ghoulish, sentence?
CJ
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Is "Linda had her arms fractured." not the almost same meaning as "Linda's arms fractured?"
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Let's start with a more reasonable sentence.
Linda had her son paint the kitchen. ~ Linda arranged for her son to paint the kitchen. She ordered him or commanded him or hired him to do it. And he painted it.
Linda had the kitchen painted. ~ Linda hired someone to paint the kitchen and they painted it for her.
Linda had the kitchen be painted. NOT
Linda had her son paint the kitchen. ~ Linda arranged for her son to paint the kitchen. She ordered him or commanded him or hired him to do it. And he painted it.
Linda had the kitchen painted. ~ Linda hired someone to paint the kitchen and they painted it for her.
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lucas21cIs "Linda had her arms fractured." not the almost same meaning as "Linda's arms fractured?"No. Not really. See my other reply where I show the different patterns that can and cannot be used with 'have', 'make', and 'let'.
CJ
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Thank you very much for your detailed explanations.
By the way, can "Linda had her arms broken." mean "It was noticed that Linda's arms were broken?"
In other words, does it mean that she did not exactly know that her arms were broken until, for example, she was check by an X-ray machine or she was told about it by her doctor?
By the way, can "Linda had her arms broken." mean "It was noticed that Linda's arms were broken?"
In other words, does it mean that she did not exactly know that her arms were broken until, for example, she was check by an X-ray machine or she was told about it by her doctor?
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lucas21ccan "Linda had her arms broken." also mean "it was noticed that Linda's arms were broken?"In other words, can it mean that she did not exactly know that her arms were broken until, for example, she was check by an X-ray machine or she was told about it by her doctor?Yes. And also, if Linda appears at work one morning with her arms in slings, we might
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