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Kooyeen Posted 18 years ago
Speech & Pronunciation
have --> huv
Hi,
I once asked when to pronounce "have" as "huv", with a schwa. I was told... never! Without the H it's ok to say uh-v, but not huv. When I first asked about this, I was thinking of sentences like:
Have you seen it?
Have you ever been to the US?
...where I thought "have" was reduced, but still pronounced with the H.
Now, I came across this, by accident. It says have is huv in some cases, like:
Have you ever been in a traffic accident?
Have you ever eaten Greek food?
Here's the direct link. It comes from "New Interchange", a course that is supposed to deal with American English: have.mp3
I'd like some comments on this. Thanks
I once asked when to pronounce "have" as "huv", with a schwa. I was told... never! Without the H it's ok to say uh-v, but not huv. When I first asked about this, I was thinking of sentences like:
Have you seen it?
Have you ever been to the US?
...where I thought "have" was reduced, but still pronounced with the H.
Now, I came across this, by accident. It says have is huv in some cases, like:
Have you ever been in a traffic accident?
Have you ever eaten Greek food?
Here's the direct link. It comes from "New Interchange", a course that is supposed to deal with American English: have.mp3
I'd like some comments on this. Thanks
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e. it's still not reduced enough. lol The way the woman pronounces "huv" sounds OK.
- e.
- it's still not reduced enough.
- lol The way the woman pronounces "huv" sounds OK.
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Hi Kooyeen
The way the man on your recording pronounces "huv" is still far too much pronunciation i.e. it's still not reduced enough. lol
The way the woman pronounces "huv" sounds OK.
The way the man on your recording pronounces "huv" is still far too much pronunciation i.e. it's still not reduced enough. lol
The way the woman pronounces "huv" sounds OK.
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"Would have" is often pronounced "would of" which is also why it's often misspelled that way by uninitiated native speakers.
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I'd like some comments on this.Ugly, ugly, ugly!!!
I don't reduce that vowel in that positio
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This is what I would expect of a reduction of the word have (at the beginning of a sentence):
The H in have might still be pronounced -- but just barely. The pronunciation of A would tend to sound more like the E in the word net, and would also barely be there. It would be the letter V that is most clearly pronounced.
The H in have might still be pronounced -- but just barely. The pronunciation of A would tend to sound more like the E in the word net, and would also barely be there. It would be the letter V that is most clearly pronounced.
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Hmmmmmm. Hmmmm...
I remember asking you, Jim. You told me to forget about huv. Either have or uh-v, with no H (or also just "v").
I asked you because I tended to reduce have and say huv at the beginning of a question, for example. Like "Huv yuh seen my glasses?" - Well, the fact is that I also tend to reduce are, like "Ur you ready fo
I remember asking you, Jim. You told me to forget about huv. Either have or uh-v, with no H (or also just "v").
I asked you because I tended to reduce have and say huv at the beginning of a question, for example. Like "Huv yuh seen my glasses?" - Well, the fact is that I also tend to reduce are, like "Ur you ready fo
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As I wrote earlier, Kooyeen, the man who says "huv" in that recording is exaggerating the way people reduce the pronunciation of have at the beginning of a sentence, so in that respect, it's basically not a reduction at all -- he says huv far to "clearly" and distinctly. Nobody says have the way that man says huv. It's an exaggerated pronunciation of a reduction.
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Anyway, Jim, Amy, what do your think of the way those people talked in the audio clip?I think my previous comment sums it up nicely. Ugly!
Actually, the "reduction" of a vowel is really "centralizing" the vowel, and I might say intitial hav centralized a bit to hev, but all the way to huv, no. This matches Amy's observation to some exte
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Yes, I think the pronunciation of an initial have is not too likely to actually be huv, but rather more like a very quick hev.
To me, the biggest problem with the way that man says huv is the extreme clarity of the pronunciation itself. The way the man says huv only sounds wrong to me -- and also ugly. lol
To me, the biggest problem with the way that man says huv is the extreme clarity of the pronunciation itself. The way the man says huv only sounds wrong to me -- and also ugly. lol
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Yes, but the man was just explaining what you were going to hear, so he had to say it slowly. Anyway, if you listen to the girl (who says the reduced have in two examples), it is actually reduced, but it's not a central schwa... yes, it sounds like it's more toward an eh sound, so it might be more like "hev", as you say.
Thanks a lot for your opinions. I won't try to reduce it.
Thanks a lot for your opinions. I won't try to reduce it.
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And is "are" not reduced either at the beginning? As in "Are you ready?" - Or is it sometimes reduced a little bit? I think it is actually reduced, but I'm not sure it's really reduced much.Here's my observation. It's reduced a little or completely.
are might become a quick uhr-ish sound (uh-r instead of the much broader sounding ah-r
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