"have came"

[nq:1]I heard an Englishman on television use this construction. It sounds wrong to my north american ear. But is this considered 'correct' UK usage?[/nq]
I don't think so. There might be dialects where it is normal, but I'm not sure that there are. When you hear such a usage, it is most usually the case that the speaker has lost his way.

But if you are so keen on correct usage, do yo

[nq:2]I heard an Englishman on television use this construction. It sounds wrong to my north american ear. But is this considered 'correct' UK usage?[/nq]
[nq:1]I don't think so. There might be dialects where it is normal, but I'm not sure that there are. When ... are so keen on correct usage, do you not think that you should also adopt the general conventions on capitalisation?[/nq]
Maybe

[nq:2]I heard an Englishman on television use this construction. It sounds wrong to my north american ear. But is this considered 'correct' UK usage?[/nq]
[nq:1]I don't think so. There might be dialects where it is normal, but I'm not sure that there are. When you hear such a usage, it is most usually the case that the speaker has lost his way.[/nq]
Ignore Padraig. This form of the past pe

[nq:2]I don't think so. There might be dialects where it ... usually the case that the speaker has lost his way.[/nq]
[nq:1]Ignore Padraig. This form of the past perfect is standard dialect in much of Scotland and in the far north of England. Adrian[/nq]
Not in the North of England where I was born and raised. Nor have I ever heard a Scot use it.

John Dean
Oxford
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[nq:2]Ignore Padraig. This form of the past perfect is standard dialect in much of Scotland and in the far north of England. Adrian[/nq]
[nq:1]Not in the North of England where I was born and raised.[/nq]
Oh, that North of England. We didn't/don't use the construction in Cheshire but they do north of the A66.
[nq:1]Nor have I ever heard a Scot use it.[/nq]
Nonsense. Do a sea

But but but ... that wasn't the question. See subject line - it says 'have came'.
And if I say I have never heard a Scot use it, in what way is that 'nonsense'? I have never heard a Scot use it. If you have, our experiences are different. Neither set of experiences in this regard is nonsense. I've no doubt of finding examples of pretty much anything on Google. The question was whether 'have ca

[nq:2]Not in the North of England where I was born and raised.[/nq]
[nq:1]Oh, that North of England. We didn't/don't use the construction in Cheshire but they do north of the A66.[/nq]
Er... Where does "North of England" start?
North of River Thames?
North of Hull?
North of Liverpool and Sheffield?
Are these "North of England" maps?

[nq:2]Oh, that North of England. We didn't/don't use the construction in Cheshire but they do north of the A66.[/nq]
[nq:1]Er... Where does "North of England" start? North of River Thames? North of Hull? North of Liverpool and Sheffield?[/nq]
North of the Watford Gap.
[nq:1]Are these "North of England" maps?

[nq:2]Er... Where does "North of England" start? North of River Thames? North of Hull? North of Liverpool and Sheffield?[/nq]
[nq:1]North of the Watford Gap.[/nq]
I'd include all of Yorkshire and Lancashire and the counties further north, plus a bit extra (including the Peak District and most of Cheshire), but not going as far south as Birmingham and Leicester, which are definitely Midland

[nq:1]Did you see the bit in the Guardian's Corrections and Clarifications column on Todmorden? http://www.guardian.co.uk/corrections/story/0,3604,1051674,00.html[/nq]
By the way, does Todmorden really mean Lonely Death?

Matti