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Has "extort" gained a new meaning?

In today's paper the following caught my eye:
"Edwards, convicted of extorting casino owners, is on a 10-year term."

In the past I've always thought that "extort" applied to the thing being obtained by threat, not to the person from whom it is obtained. All the dictionaries I checked agree. From the RHUD: "extort: to wrest or wring (money, information, etc.) from a person by violence, intimidation, or abuse of authority; obtain by force, torture, threat, or the like"
But a Google search shows that the above isn't an isolated usage:

"Japanese boy bullied, extorted and killed"

"Ucsf Successfully Extorted By Pakistani Transcriber."
"A federal grand jury in Boston reportedly is investigating whether local Teamsters Union officials extorted Hollywood producers filming movies throughout New England."

This new (to me) usage seems to be mostly confined to headlines. Does anyone else find this new, or have I just failed to notice it in the past?

Ray Heindl
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english: [nq:1]"A federal grand jury in Boston reportedly is investigating whether local Teamsters Union officials extorted Hollywood producers filming movies throughout ... confined to headlines. [/nq] This isn't very new.

  • english: [nq:1]"A federal grand jury in Boston reportedly is investigating whether local Teamsters Union officials extorted Hollywood producers filming movies throughout ...
  • confined to headlines.
  • [/nq] This isn't very new.
  • It's been used as an exact synonym for blackmail for a good many years, and of course you do blackmail the person, not the money.
  • I'm a little dismayed to see it has trickled up to crime reporters who should know better.
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In our last episode,
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the lovely and talented Ray Heindl
broadcast on alt.usage.english:
[nq:1]"A federal grand jury in Boston reportedly is investigating whether local Teamsters Union officials extorted Hollywood producers filming movies throughout ... confined to headlines. Does anyone else find this new, or have I just failed to notice it in the past?[/nq]
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[nq:1]In today's paper the following caught my eye: "Edwards, convicted of extorting casino owners, is on a 10-year term." In ... confined to headlines. Does anyone else find this new, or have I just failed to notice it in the past?[/nq]
I think you've got a point, but it's not that the word has a new meaning. It's not suddenly used to mean "to bake cupcakes" or "to paint woodwork" or s
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[nq:1]So I moved on to the Mastertexts.com database of 18th and 19th century literature.[/nq]
Presumably including the later sonnets of Shakespeare.

Nice site, though. I'll have to remember that one.

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[nq:2]In today's paper the following caught my eye: "Edwards, convicted ... have I just failed to notice it in the past?[/nq]
[nq:1]I think you've got a point, but it's not that the word has a new meaning. It's not suddenly used ... very old. Perhaps Bob L. knows whether the legal community is consistent in how it refers to the criminal charge.[/nq]
Here's another use by lawyers :
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[nq:2]So I moved on to the Mastertexts.com database of 18th and 19th century literature.[/nq]
[nq:1]Presumably including the later sonnets of Shakespeare.[/nq]
But that was 17th. What's the joke?
Not that they do poetry, anyway.

Best Donna Richoux
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[nq:2]Presumably including the later sonnets of Shakespeare.[/nq]
[nq:1]But that was 17th. What's the joke?[/nq]
That the 17th century isn't the 18th century or the 19th century.
[nq:1]Not that they do poetry, anyway.[/nq]
Actually, that's all they have of Shakespeare. (They claim to have "All's Well That Ends Well", but the link doesn't work.)

Evan Kirshenbaum + HP Labora
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[nq:1]Perhaps Bob L. knows whether the legal community is consistent in how it refers to the criminal charge.[/nq]
The legal community is rarely consistent in anything, Donna(1), but I'd find it highly unlikely if the definition of a crime broadened merely because the definition of the common noun used to label the crime broadened. FWIW, the definition of "extort" in the FindLaw legal dictiona
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[nq:1](2) How many Virginians does it take to change a light bulb? Four: one does the work while the other three talk about what a great bulb the old one was.[/nq]
And if that old bulb is registered as historical, the one person won't be allowed to change it anyway.

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[nq:2]In today's paper the following caught my eye: "Edwards, convicted ... have I just failed to notice it in the past?[/nq]
[nq:1]I think you've got a point, but it's not that the word has a new meaning. It's not suddenly used ... used. Is it transitive or intransitive? Is the direct object the victim or the thing obtained? That sort of thing.[/nq]
Well, I guess I'd call it an ext

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