Had + present usage

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"He had come yesterday" "He had came yesterday" Could you please tell me the difference between these two sentences ? Please give me the link if this topic has already been discussed .thank youphani

Fandorin · Accepted Answer

Hi,phanish.

phanish"
He ~~had~~ came yesterday"
"He ~~had~~ came yesterday"

Could you please tell me the difference between these two sentences ?

Please give me the link if this topic has already been discussed .

thank you
phani

If the exact date is indicated we use Past Simple Tense.

Phanish · Answer

Thanks Fandorin,

But that is not my problem. I will give you another example.

"I had came to aidpage to find some help on getting my bills paid"
"I had come to aidpage to find some help on getting my bills paid"

Could you please explain the difference between the above sentences. I want to know the usage of "had + past participle" and "had + present participle" like the difference between "had come" and "had came" etc

phanish

Fandorin · Answer

I understood that.
There is no such construction "had + Present participle". "Come" has three forms: come, came, come.

I want to know the usage of "had + past participle" and "had + present participle" like the difference between "had come" and "had came" etc. It's absolutely wrong.
Infinitive: come
Imperative: come
Present Participle (Participle 1) : coming
Past Participle (Participle 2) : come

"He had gone when we arrived"

~~"He had went when we arrived."~~

Phanish · Answer

Thanks a lot Fandorin.. Now I have got some idea.

Please tell me whether the following sentences are correct or not.

"They had came yesterday but I wasn't there at home."

"They had come to your house when you weren't there".

Thank you

Phanish · Answer

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Yoong Liat · Answer

They ~~had~~ came yesterday but I wasn't there at home."

"They ~~had come~~ came to your house when you weren't there".

Phanish · Answer

Thanks a lot.

Could you please give me an example to show the usage of "had come" and "had came". I am quite confused about these.

thank you

Tanit · Answer

Hi,

phanishCould you please give me an example to show the usage of "had come" and "had came". I am quite confused about these.

Yes, I see you're quite confused.

Fandorin has already told you that "had came" does not exist. Shall I try and repeat with different words what he meant?

Have a look at any dictionary. It will show you the three forms of this verb: come, came, come

The first "come" is the present simple: I come here everyday by bus.
The second, "came", is the past simple: Yesterday I came here by bus.
The third, "come", is the past participle. You can combine the past participle with the appropriate form of the verb "to have" and you'll get either the present perfect (have come - has come) or the past perfect (had come).

You cannot combine have, has or had with the past simple -- only with the past participle. So, there are no such things as ~~have came, has came, had came~~. They are completely wrong. You can only say (in a suitable context): I have come, She has come, I had come.

Now, if your next question were'When should I use "I came" and when "I had come"?', my answer would be: please study the difference between past simple (I came) and past perfect (I had come). But please bear in mind that ~~"I had came~~" is incorrect.

Does this make sense to you?

Phanish · Answer

Thanks Tanit,

If I google for "had came", I will get more than 2 lakh results. That is why I was confused.

Tanit · Answer

Hi,

I see

Don't trust Google, unless you know how and where to search. Many web pages in English are written by non-native speakers, and often in poor/ungrammatical English, so you can find pretty much everything on the Internet!

phanishI will get more than 2 lakh results

What???

I had to look "lakh" on a dictionary. Ok, now I appreciate it means 100,000, but I'm not used to Indian English!
By the way, I "only" got http://www.google.com/search?q=%22I+had+came%22&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B2GGFB_enIT228IT228 - this should tell you something about the reliability of some Google-based searches.

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