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Grammaticaly correct sentences (or not...)
Hello,
as part of the writing of a program that will check grammar, we have to use a set of correct and incorrect sentences:
1) Two first class honors Carl wants among his senior sophister studentsthis year
2) It is a picnic that Mel wants Val to try to enjoy
3) It is a picnic that Mel thinks is going to be enjoyed by Mel
4) It is a picnic that Mel thinks are going to be enjoyed by Mel
5) It is a picnic that Mel thinks that is going to be enjoyed by Mel
6) Mel thinks a picnic is going to be enjoyed by Mel
7) Mel thinks that a picnic is going to be enjoyed by Mel
8) To Mel Leslie seems to want to give a book
9) It is Mel that Leslie seems to want to give a book to
10) It is a book that Leslie seems to want to give to Mel
But in fact, I have doubts. It seems to me that
(considering grammatical aspects only) :
Correct sentences : 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10
Incorrect sentences : 4
Big doubts : 1 (incorrect that way, but correct as part of a larger sentence ?), 8
What's your opinion ?
Thanks !
as part of the writing of a program that will check grammar, we have to use a set of correct and incorrect sentences:
1) Two first class honors Carl wants among his senior sophister studentsthis year
2) It is a picnic that Mel wants Val to try to enjoy
3) It is a picnic that Mel thinks is going to be enjoyed by Mel
4) It is a picnic that Mel thinks are going to be enjoyed by Mel
5) It is a picnic that Mel thinks that is going to be enjoyed by Mel
6) Mel thinks a picnic is going to be enjoyed by Mel
7) Mel thinks that a picnic is going to be enjoyed by Mel
8) To Mel Leslie seems to want to give a book
9) It is Mel that Leslie seems to want to give a book to
10) It is a book that Leslie seems to want to give to Mel
But in fact, I have doubts. It seems to me that
(considering grammatical aspects only) :
Correct sentences : 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10
Incorrect sentences : 4
Big doubts : 1 (incorrect that way, but correct as part of a larger sentence ?), 8
What's your opinion ?
Thanks !
Top answer
At 11:58:04 on Mon, 24 Mar 2008, myname (Email Removed) wrote in : [nq:1]Hello, as part of the writing of a program that will check grammar, we have to use a set of ... want to give a book to 10) It is a book that Leslie seems to want to give to Mel[/nq] 1. Incorrect order - try "Carl wants two first class honours among hissenior sophister students this year".
- At 11:58:04 on Mon, 24 Mar 2008, myname (Email Removed) wrote in : [nq:1]Hello, as part of the writing of a program that will check grammar, we have to use a set of ...
- want to give a book to 10) It is a book that Leslie seems to want to give to Mel[/nq] 1.
- Incorrect order - try "Carl wants two first class honours among hissenior sophister students this year".
- 2.
- Clumsy, but grammatically correct 3.
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At 11:58:04 on Mon, 24 Mar 2008, myname (Email Removed) wrote in :
[nq:1]Hello, as part of the writing of a program that will check grammar, we have to use a set of ... want to give a book to 10) It is a book that Leslie seems to want to give to Mel[/nq]
1. Incorrect order - try "Carl wants two first class honours among hissenior sophister students this year".
2. Clumsy, but gramm
[nq:1]Hello, as part of the writing of a program that will check grammar, we have to use a set of ... want to give a book to 10) It is a book that Leslie seems to want to give to Mel[/nq]
1. Incorrect order - try "Carl wants two first class honours among hissenior sophister students this year".
2. Clumsy, but gramm
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[nq:2]9) It is Mel that Leslie seems to want to give a book to[/nq]
[nq:1]9. Incorrect order - try "It is Mel to whom Leslie seems to want to give a book"[/nq]
I would say that your correction of no. 9 is the sort of language up with which Churchill refused to put.
Noel
[nq:1]9. Incorrect order - try "It is Mel to whom Leslie seems to want to give a book"[/nq]
I would say that your correction of no. 9 is the sort of language up with which Churchill refused to put.
Noel
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[nq:1]I would say that your correction of no. 9 is the sort of language up with which Churchill refused to put.[/nq]
I thought it was not the language or the grammar, but the insubordination of being corrected about it, up with which Churchill refused to put.
Cheers
Tony
Tony Mountifield
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I thought it was not the language or the grammar, but the insubordination of being corrected about it, up with which Churchill refused to put.
Cheers
Tony
Tony Mountifield
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Tony Mountifield schrieb:
[nq:2]I would say that your correction of no. 9 is the sort of language up with which Churchill refused to put.[/nq]
[nq:1]I thought it was not the language or the grammar, but the insubordination of being corrected about it, up with which Churchill refused to put.[/nq]
An element of both, I believe. He was protesting against the correction of a sentence he ha
[nq:2]I would say that your correction of no. 9 is the sort of language up with which Churchill refused to put.[/nq]
[nq:1]I thought it was not the language or the grammar, but the insubordination of being corrected about it, up with which Churchill refused to put.[/nq]
An element of both, I believe. He was protesting against the correction of a sentence he ha
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"Molly Mockford" (Email Removed) a écrit dans le message de
[nq:2]Hello, as part of the writing of a program that ... book that Leslie seems to want to give to Mel[/nq]
[nq:1]1. Incorrect order - try "Carl wants two first class honours among his senior sophister students this year". 2. Clumsy, ... deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin (My Reply-To address *is* valid, thou
[nq:2]Hello, as part of the writing of a program that ... book that Leslie seems to want to give to Mel[/nq]
[nq:1]1. Incorrect order - try "Carl wants two first class honours among his senior sophister students this year". 2. Clumsy, ... deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin (My Reply-To address *is* valid, thou
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I remember reading a language column by William Sapphire in an Indian magazine a few years ago where he had ruthlessly and meticulously set out to decimate all existing grammar softwares by ripping them apart and showing them for what they really were - junk. I hope you'll take that extra caution not to let someone like him find fault with yours, even though that would be next to asking for the im
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At 14:26:03 on Mon, 24 Mar 2008, myname (Email Removed) wrote in :
[nq:1]About sentences 3, 6 and 7 (duplication of Mel), if we were to use another name (Leslie), they would be ... is going to be enjoyed by Leslie 7) Mel thinks that a picnic is going to be enjoyed by Leslie[/nq]
Yes, they would all be grammatically correct, although they are not "natural" English. As a rule of thumb, the p
[nq:1]About sentences 3, 6 and 7 (duplication of Mel), if we were to use another name (Leslie), they would be ... is going to be enjoyed by Leslie 7) Mel thinks that a picnic is going to be enjoyed by Leslie[/nq]
Yes, they would all be grammatically correct, although they are not "natural" English. As a rule of thumb, the p
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[nq:1]1) Two first class honors Carl wants among his senior sophister students this year[/nq]
In addition to points that others have made, I think that it is usual to hyphenate "first-class".
John Hall
"If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts,
he shall end in certainties." Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
In addition to points that others have made, I think that it is usual to hyphenate "first-class".
John Hall
"If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts,
he shall end in certainties." Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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[nq:1]In addition to points that others have made, I think that it is usual to hyphenate "first-class". John Hall[/nq]
Are you really, really sure? Just as e.e.cummings (the American poet) had an incurable distrust of the capitals, I tend to believe that genneXt distrusts the hyphenated compound word. I think 'first class' is hyphenated only in very rare adjectival positions such as 'a first-
Are you really, really sure? Just as e.e.cummings (the American poet) had an incurable distrust of the capitals, I tend to believe that genneXt distrusts the hyphenated compound word. I think 'first class' is hyphenated only in very rare adjectival positions such as 'a first-
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[nq:2]In addition to points that others have made, I think that it is usual to hyphenate "first-class".[/nq]
[nq:1]Are you really, really sure? Just as e.e.cummings (the American poet) had an incurable distrust of the capitals, I tend ... 'a first- class mind.' Hyphenation, I think, as language is used today, is more the exception than the rule.[/nq]
You have snipped the sentence, presumab
[nq:1]Are you really, really sure? Just as e.e.cummings (the American poet) had an incurable distrust of the capitals, I tend ... 'a first- class mind.' Hyphenation, I think, as language is used today, is more the exception than the rule.[/nq]
You have snipped the sentence, presumab
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