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Beata Kolasinska Posted 14 years ago
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Grammatically confusing "If ... would ...,"

This sentence is grammatically confusing to me . I would like to find out if it is correct to say "I wouldn't have to manage my anger if people would manage their stupidity" ??
  

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In what way is it confusing to you?
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Hello.

"I would not have had to manage my anger If people would manage their stupidty". Is this correct?
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Second part of this sentence is confusing me - " I wouldn't have to manage my anger ,if people would manage their stupidity"
After " if part of the sentence" we usually don't say "would".
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When 'will' means 'am/is/are willing/prepared to' and 'would' means 'was/were willing to , then it is perfectly acceptable to use them in if-clauses:


If you will come with me, I'll take you to Mr Postule's office.

If you would drive me to the station, I could catch the InterCity.
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The sentence is fine. It is conditional for a future or habitual action (managing stupidity).

Here is the basic gist with some paraphrases:

People's stupidity makes me angry.
People are stupid, so I have to manage my anger (to avoid a fight.)
If people weren't stupid, then I would not have to manage my anger..
If people would manage their stupidity, then I would not
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Beata KolasinskaAfter " if part of the sentence" we usually don't say "would".
That's correct in general for both "will" and "would", but we make an exception for "bargaining" sentences -- sentences in which there is some reciprocal exchange of benefits. Here's the basic pattern:

If you {will/would} do this, (then in return) I {will/would} do that
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OMG Emotion: surprise
The more I know the less I understand
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Beata KolasinskaThe more I know the less I understand
Join the club! It's called the human condition.
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Beata KolasinskaOMG The more I know the less I understand
I sympathise. The problem for many learners (and some teachers) is that many coursebooks, and grammars written for students, suggest that we never use will or would in an if- clause. This is just not true. It is true that we do not use these word when they imply, as they ofte
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I would use caution here because such a statement is really a belittling opinion. You don't want to be heard insulting others and in the process admitting to having an anger issue. Used in humor you would need to smile and perhaps help the other person straighten out their errors. Thanks.

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