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Darkneon Posted 22 years ago
Grammar

Grammatical subject / subject

Hello,

Is there a difference between the "subject" of a sentence and the "grammatical subject" of a sentence?

I am asking this because while I was studing sentence structure the author was referring to "subject" of a sentence. Now that I am beginning active/passive voice, she refers to "grammatical subject".

Thank You
  

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She is drawing a distinction between what are called a surface subject (grammatical subject) and a deep subject. The deep subject of a sentence in the passive voice becomes the grammatical subject when the passive sentence is rephrased in the active voice. Generally speaking, both subjects are the agent (the person(s) performing the action).

  • She is drawing a distinction between what are called a surface subject (grammatical subject) and a deep subject.
  • The deep subject of a sentence in the passive voice becomes the grammatical subject when the passive sentence is rephrased in the active voice.
  • Generally speaking, both subjects are the agent (the person(s) performing the action).
  • 1) John wrote the books.
  • John is the agent.
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She is drawing a distinction between what are called a surface subject (grammatical subject) and a deep subject. The deep subject of a sentence in the passive voice becomes the grammatical subject when the passive sentence is rephrased in the active voice.

Generally speaking, both subjects are the agent (the person(s) performing the action).

1) John wrote the books.
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Thanks CalifJim

"subject of the sentence, but not the agent of the action".


That made it clear.

Looking at my sentence, does "I am asking this / because while I was studing sentence structure / the author was referring to "subject" of a sentence. " have three clauses or two (an independent and a long dependent) ?
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'I am asking this, because, while I was studying sentence structure, the author was referring to "subject" of a sentence.'

(1) 'I am asking this'

(2) 'because... the author was referring to "subject" of a sentence'

(3) 'while I was studying sentence structure'
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[ ( because ) 3a

( while I was studing sentence structure ) 2

( the author was referring to "subject" of a sentence. ) 3b ]

I would say three clauses, as numbered. The parts of 3 are separated into 3a and 3b.

2 is dependent on 3
3 is dependent on 1
1 is independent

There may be other ways to analyze the sentence. The
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In a sentence in the passive voice, the receiver of the action is both the grammatical/formal subject and the real/notional subject.

In "A new art gallery was opened last Saturday"
"a new art gallery" is the only possible subject of the sentence. It is both the grammatical and the notional subject.

Grammatical and notional subjects don't depend on voice. In "the book was
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Hi Jim

That is a very clear explanation of the difference between surface and deep subjects.

Just one question if I may. Based on this:



Would you call the subject in these a surface subject? :


Bureucrats bribe easily.

The cake burned.

The leaf dropped.


It's a weird area of ergativity for me, where the true
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Yes, I would definitely call "bureaucrats", "cake" and "leaf" the surface subjects.

As for ergativatity, I'd say it's beyond weird! It gives me a headache!

CJ
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:-S

Thanks, Jim.


I agree that even the word "ergative" can send one into convulsions.

Emotion: wink
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.. or is that 'purgative'?

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