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Usenet Posted 22 years ago
English in UK
"Got any"
I heard the following sentence in a film (the actor was British):
"I haven't got any matches",
where "got any" was pronounced as "I haven't gotney matches".
I don't mean he made a glottal stop in lieu of the "t" (which I would not like), it just was pronounced as in "partner", not as in "time". Is that the correct RP pronunciation? Is it as correct as if it were pronounced with a clear "t" sound, such as in "time" or "tear"? I, for one, suppose it is, just like such words as "garden" can be pronounced either with a clear "d" sound (as in "dove") or a non-plosive, if that is the right word, sound, as if it were written "gard'n", either version not being more correct than the other.
If necessary, I can provide mp3s of both sounds.
Bye, FB
"Nasalization is just a part of life"
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"I haven't got any matches",
where "got any" was pronounced as "I haven't gotney matches".
I don't mean he made a glottal stop in lieu of the "t" (which I would not like), it just was pronounced as in "partner", not as in "time". Is that the correct RP pronunciation? Is it as correct as if it were pronounced with a clear "t" sound, such as in "time" or "tear"? I, for one, suppose it is, just like such words as "garden" can be pronounced either with a clear "d" sound (as in "dove") or a non-plosive, if that is the right word, sound, as if it were written "gard'n", either version not being more correct than the other.
If necessary, I can provide mp3s of both sounds.
Bye, FB
"Nasalization is just a part of life"
(Joey DoWop Dee on it.cultura.linguistica.inglese)
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[nq:1]I heard the following sentence in a film (the actor was British): "I haven't got any matches", where "got any" ... [/nq] This isn't received pronunciation - there the "a" in "any" would be pronounced as a schwa. What has happened its taht the schwa has been compressed so much that it has effectively disappeared.
- [nq:1]I heard the following sentence in a film (the actor was British): "I haven't got any matches", where "got any" ...
- [/nq] This isn't received pronunciation - there the "a" in "any" would be pronounced as a schwa.
- What has happened its taht the schwa has been compressed so much that it has effectively disappeared.
- This is quite common, particlularly in fast speech.
- The "t" sound in "got", as is usual with "t" sounds at the end of a syllable is not the same as an initial "t" and is rarely what you call "plosive" like the initial "t".
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[nq:1]I heard the following sentence in a film (the actor was British): "I haven't got any matches", where "got any" ... Is it as correct as if it were pronounced with a clear "t" sound, such as in "time" or "tear"?[/nq]
This isn't received pronunciation - there the "a" in "any" would be pronounced as a schwa. What has happened its taht the schwa has been compressed so much that it has effecti
This isn't received pronunciation - there the "a" in "any" would be pronounced as a schwa. What has happened its taht the schwa has been compressed so much that it has effecti
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[nq:1]I heard the following sentence in a film (the actor was British): "I haven't got any matches", where "got any" ... would not like), it just was pronounced as in "partner", not as in "time". Is that the correct RP pronunciation?[/nq]
I'd say not. Actually I find the combination of the (presumably) RP "haven't" with the elision of "gotney" rather surprising. I'd have expected either the RP
I'd say not. Actually I find the combination of the (presumably) RP "haven't" with the elision of "gotney" rather surprising. I'd have expected either the RP
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[nq:1]The one sort of UK speech pattern I can just about envisage producing the combinatrion would probably come from somebody educated at a middle-ranking private school - many of these produce idiosycratic variations of RP.[/nq]
Actually the speaker sounds educated, rather posh. He plays "Mr. Mayhew" in "Witness for the Prosecution" by Billy Wilder; he also says "rather well-orf" for "rather
Actually the speaker sounds educated, rather posh. He plays "Mr. Mayhew" in "Witness for the Prosecution" by Billy Wilder; he also says "rather well-orf" for "rather
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[nq:1]This isn't received pronunciation - there the "a" in "any" would be pronounced as a schwa.[/nq]
Would the "t" be plosive (again, if that is the right word) in that case, like in "time", or rather like in "partner"? In the latter case, it might be what the actor actually said.
[nq:1]The "t" sound in "got", as is usual with "t" sounds at the end of a syllable is not the ... initial "t"
Would the "t" be plosive (again, if that is the right word) in that case, like in "time", or rather like in "partner"? In the latter case, it might be what the actor actually said.
[nq:1]The "t" sound in "got", as is usual with "t" sounds at the end of a syllable is not the ... initial "t"
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[nq:2]This isn't received pronunciation - there the "a" in "any" would be pronounced as a schwa.[/nq]
[nq:1]Would the "t" be plosive (again, if that is the right word) in that case, like in "time", or rather like in "partner"? In the latter case, it might be what the actor actually said.[/nq]
As i pointed out below, the sound would be more like the "t" in "partner" - assumeing what is call
[nq:1]Would the "t" be plosive (again, if that is the right word) in that case, like in "time", or rather like in "partner"? In the latter case, it might be what the actor actually said.[/nq]
As i pointed out below, the sound would be more like the "t" in "partner" - assumeing what is call
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[nq:1]This isn't received pronunciation - there the "a" in "any" would be pronounced as a schwa. What has happened its taht the schwa has been compressed so much that it has effectively disappeared. This is quite common, particlularly in fast speech.[/nq]
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/fb83/gotany.mp3 (about 34 K
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/fb83/gotany.mp3 (about 34 K
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