The examples you mentioned that are used are instances which have become so common in informal English that they sound good and anything that sounds good in English tends to be regarded as idiomatic English no matter how ungrammatical it is. I agree with you. CB
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Cool Breezehe examples you mentioned that are used are instances which have become so common in informal English that they sound good and anything that sounds good in English tends to be regarded as idiomatic English no matter how ungrammatical it is. I agree with you.