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German Letter in the English Language!?

Hi,
a friend told me that in earlier times, the English Language had the Letter "ß", in Germany called "sz". I've googled around but haven't found further information. Is here someone, who knows more about this?

I hope I've chosen the subject well, I only guess that the German Language is the only one, which contain the letter "sz".

Thanks in advance & greetings from Germany,
Peter
  

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[nq:1]Hi, a friend told me that in earlier times, the English Language had the Letter "ß", in Germany called "sz". [/nq] Earlier in English (and in other languages too) there were two forms of the letter "s". One looked a bit like "f" without the crossbar and the otehr looked like the modern "s".

  • [nq:1]Hi, a friend told me that in earlier times, the English Language had the Letter "ß", in Germany called "sz".
  • [/nq] Earlier in English (and in other languages too) there were two forms of the letter "s".
  • One looked a bit like "f" without the crossbar and the otehr looked like the modern "s".
  • When you had double "s" it was often written like "fs" (without the crossbar on the "f" , of course).
  • printers often used combined letters called ligatures because it saved time (and space) while typesetting with loose type.
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[nq:1]Hi, a friend told me that in earlier times, the English Language had the Letter "ß", in Germany called "sz". ... chosen the subject well, I only guess that the German Language is the only one, which contain the letter "sz".[/nq]
Earlier in English (and in other languages too) there were two forms of the letter "s". One looked a bit like "f" without the crossbar and the otehr looked like
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[nq:2]Hi, a friend told me that in earlier times, the ... Language is the only one, which contain the letter "sz".[/nq]
[nq:1]Earlier in English (and in other languages too) there were two forms of the letter "s". One looked a bit ... you gathered information about ligatures. Incidentally the German umlauted letters originated from such ligatures too. Hope that helps a bit.[/nq]
Yes, it he
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[nq:1]It might help if you gathered information about ligatures. Incidentally the German umlauted letters originated from such ligatures too.[/nq]
I'm not so sure about that - the Dutch "ij" is supposed to represent y-umlaut (rather than vice versa).

John Briggs
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[nq:2]Hi, a friend told me that in earlier times, the ... Language is the only one, which contain the letter "sz".[/nq]
[nq:1]Earlier in English (and in other languages too) there were two forms of the letter "s". One looked a bit ... When you had double "s" it was often written like "fs" (without the crossbar on the "f" , of course).[/nq]
I once read a very clever piece in which every 's'
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At 21:34:48 on Sat, 8 Oct 2005, John of Aix (Email Removed) wrote in :
[nq:1]I once read a very clever piece in which every 's' sound had been turned into f and which was hilarious to read.[/nq]
There was an episode of the excellent "The Vicar of Dibley" where Alice, the intellectually-challenged girl-verger, had to read from an antique bible whose Ss looked like Fs, and Geraldine interrup
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[nq:2]It might help if you gathered information about ligatures. Incidentally the German umlauted letters originated from such ligatures too.[/nq]
[nq:1]I'm not so sure about that - the Dutch "ij" is supposed to represent y-umlaut (rather than vice versa).[/nq]
I don't know anything about Dutch, but I have seen old inscriptions and documents in German where instead of the modern umlaut (i.
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[nq:2]It might help if you gathered information about ligatures. Incidentally the German umlauted letters originated from such ligatures too.[/nq]
[nq:1]I'm not so sure about that - the Dutch "ij" is supposed to represent y-umlaut (rather than vice versa).[/nq]
Is it ballocks. The letter 'y' in standard Dutch is called 'griekse ypsilon' (nice example of recursion there) and is used only in
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[nq:2]I once read a very clever piece in which every 's' sound had been turned into f and which was hilarious to read.[/nq]
[nq:1]There was an episode of the excellent "The Vicar of Dibley" where Alice, the intellectually-challenged girl-verger, had to read from an antique bible whose Ss looked like Fs, and Geraldine interrupted her just before she got to the word "succour".[/nq]
;-)
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[nq:2]I'm not so sure about that - the Dutch "ij" is supposed to represent y-umlaut (rather than vice versa).[/nq]
[nq:1]I don't know anything about Dutch, but I have seen old inscriptions and documents in German where instead of the modern umlaut (i.e. 2 dots over the letter) there is a small "e" as a sort of superscript over the letter.[/nq]
When we last stayed in Gemany it took us a whi
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[nq:2]I'm not so sure about that - the Dutch "ij" is supposed to represent y-umlaut (rather than vice versa).[/nq]
[nq:1]Is it ballocks. The letter 'y' in standard Dutch is called 'griekse ypsilon' (nice example of recursion there) and is ... can tell, 'y' is only used with its consonantal value in Dutch (with the caveats regarding archaic spelling stated below).[/nq]
OK - in that case, ex

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