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New2grammar Posted 18 years ago
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gathered as baseless

The government's decision to continue to hold him is said to be based on serious charges, charges that we have gathered as baseless.

Is the above correct?
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The idea of gathering charges doesn't make sense to me. CJ

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The idea of gathering charges doesn't make sense to me.
CJ
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I interpret gather as conclude.
  1. To conclude; infer: I gather that a decision has not been reached.

    Could you help me undesrtand why it doesn't make sense?
    thanks.
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I'm guessing you mean:

The government's decision to continue to hold him is said to be based on serious charges, charges that we gather are baseless.

But "based on charges that are baseless" is awkward, so you might want to think of another way of putting this.
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I would say:

charges which, we gather, are baseless.
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New2grammarCould you help me undesrtand why it doesn't make sense?
thanks.
To me, it does (in this sense), but it's less usual to use the past tense ("have gathered") in this way, so it kind of throws you off course (especially since it's not followed by "that").
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The government's decision to continue to hold him is said to be based on serious charges, charges that we gather are baseless.

Mr. Wordy, can you help me understand the meaning of the bolded? I want to make sure it's what I want to say.
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New2grammarI interpret gather as conclude.
  1. To conclude; infer: I gather that a decision has not been reached.

    Could you help me undesrtand why it doesn't make sense?
    thanks.
Then I think you mean charges that (we gather/conclude) are baseless. Not charges that we gather/collect [as
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New2grammarThe government's decision to continue to hold him is said to be based on serious charges, charges that we gather are baseless.

Mr. Wordy, can you help me understand the meaning of the bolded? I want to make sure it's what I want to say.

We understand that they are baseless, based on what we've been told, information that w
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Thanks, Mr. Wordy and CJ.

CJ. It wasn't a typo Emotion: sad I thought we couldn't have a clause in such a construction which is why I pu
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New2grammarI thought we couldn't have a clause in such a construction
I see.
Well, you can have this type of construction.
These are the charges that [we have gathered / I think / you believe] are baseless.
Here is the money that [I said / you thought / we determined / the police discovered / I believed / they declared] was stole
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