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0Because anything posted on the Web is available forever through an Internet search, a rape survivor must consider how they would feel if that information were dredged up in the future, counselors said. By making themselves -- or their IP address -- available, victims open themselves to unreliable and unprofessional advice and the harsh judgment of their peers. 02br02br00Perhaps worst of all, they could give their 01b00perpetrator02b00 a chance to find them again or 01b00gain more satisfaction02b00.02br02br001. Can I pluralize perpetrator?02br02br002. What's does the phrase "gain more satisfaction" imply, rape? 02br02br00Thanks in advance!0-

Clive · Accepted Answer

0Hi,02br
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01font00Because anything posted on the Web is available forever through an Internet search, a rape survivor must consider how they would feel if that information were dredged up in the future, counselors said. By making themselves -- or their IP address -- available, victims open themselves to unreliable and unprofessional advice and the harsh judgment of their peers. 02font02br
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01font00Perhaps worst of all, they could give their 01b00perpetrator05002b00 a chance to find them again or 01b00gain more satisfaction02b00.02font02br
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01font001. Can I pluralize perpetrator? 02font00First, I wouldn't say 01i01u00'their02u02i00 perpetrator'. The possessive sounds inappropriate here. I'd just say 01b00'the02b00 perpetrator'. 01u00 ' . . . of this particular rape'02u00 will be assumed by the reader. 02br
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00You can pluralize the word if it was multiple people, or say 'perpetrator or perpetrators', but that seems cumbersome, so I'd just leave it as singular. 02br
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01font002. What's does the phrase "gain more satisfaction" imply, rape? 02font00No. The idea is that the perpetrator may possibly enjoy reading the victim's comments and feelings about the rape.02br
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00Best wishes, Clive030srchttp://www.EnglishForward.com/emoticons/emotion-56.gif

New2grammar · Answer

0This is more difficult than I thought. I had assumed that "find them" referred to locating the victims physically when I asked the question about satisfaction. After reading your reply and re-reading the passage, I believe it means finding the video or message posted by their victims on the Internet. Am I right?0-

Clive · Answer

0Hi,02br
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00No, your first assumption about locating them physically is correct.02br
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00He might find them physically or enjoy reading what they say about the rape.02br
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00Best wishes, Clive0-

New2grammar · Answer

0This passage is making my head spin. I wonder which part of the passage infers that the perpetrators may locate their victims physically instead of their message on the Internet.0-

Clive · Answer

0Hi,02br
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01font00Perhaps worst of all, they could give their 01b00perpetrator05002b00 a chance to find them again or 01b00gain more satisfaction02b00.02font02br
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01i01font00This passage is making my head spin. I wonder which part of the passage infers that the perpetrators may locate their victims physically instead of their message on the Internet.02font02i02br
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01font00When one speaks of 'finding someone', the usual implication is physically. If the intended meaning is other than physical, the words should show that, eg a chance to find them again 01i01u00on the internet.02u02i02font02br
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01font00Actually, the wording of the original is not good, because by presenting the two alternatives it seems to suggest that the alternative of finding the person would not bring satisfaction. It would be better to say 02font01b00a chance to find them again or to gain more satisfaction by reading what they write.02b02br
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01font00Best wishes, Clive 02br
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New2grammar · Answer

0Thanks, Clive. I have a better idea now.0-

Pter · Answer

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01cite10New2grammar12cite10By making themselves -- or their IP address -- available, victims open themselves to unreliable and unprofessional advice and the harsh judgment of their peers.12blockquote

10This journalist didn't know what she is writing. Making an IP address available means nothing except to law enforcement. Only your ISP can determine where you physically are from the IP address and law enforcement needs a subpoena from the court to ask the ISP to disclose such information. No one can contact you just through an IP address. She should have written "By making themselves available through the Internet (e.g. MSN, facebook, other online communities), ....."01blockquote

01cite10New2grammar12cite10Perhaps worst of all, they could give their 11b10perpetrator15012b10 a chance to find them again or 11b10gain more satisfaction12b10.12blockquote

10 We can only guess what she means. Clive already offered his interpretation. However, the whole thing just doesn't make much sense to me. Somewhere else in the article mentioned that "Most sexual violence is acquaintance rape". An acquaintance knows where the victim is and does not need to find the victim through the Internet. The article mentioned a case in which the attacker continued to go to the same class as the victom. Perhaps, this sentence means the attacker may find the victim on the Internet and gain more satisfaction by pretending to be someone sympathetic and then luring the victim to re-tell and re-live what happened. 01blockquote

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11font11i10 She began instant messaging in chat rooms but quickly realized that many people who initially seemed sympathetic were only pretending. 12i12font12br
11font11i10 "The next thing you know, they are making it seem like they are turned on. They were asking me for details of my rape. It was very disturbing," she said. "I had to block several people. After that, I thought the worst of the world. I thought everyone was a perpetrator, and I trusted no one."12i12font12br
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10Perhaps, the journalist is using the language like a digital native. A digital native means someone who grows up taking for granted everything digital. They call a digital camera just "a camera" while a digital migrant calls that a "digital camera". "Finding some" is then by default finding someone on the Internet. 030srchttp://www.EnglishForward.com/emoticons/emotion-56.gif

New2grammar · Answer

0 Thanks Pter for offering your interpretation. I'm glad that the sentence is subject to interpretation.0-

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