Future + till Monday

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Hi there,I'd like to ask about  ' Future & Till time' :     I  stayed  there  till  Monday.     I  have  stayed  here  till  now.Above two sentences are OK  but below two  are confusing.     I'll  have  stayed  there  till  Monday.     I will  stay  there  till  Monday.I thought that  'from the present up to the future' can be shown as 'future perfect',but in this case  it seems to be another story.Only "I will stay~" should be used with "till Monday"?TasmanTiger

CalifJim · Accepted Answer

TasmanTigerAbove two sentences are OK but below two are confusing.

I'll have stayed there till Monday.

I will stay there till Monday.

Both are OK. Statistically, you'll find that people use the second one more often. The first one establishes a secondary temporal point of view in the future.

I'll have stayed there till Monday -- when the whole story is told many months from now.

The second one simply looks at the situation from the viewpoint of the present.

I will stay there till Monday -- as my plans stand now.

CJ

KrisBlueNZ · Answer

TasmanTigerI stayed there till Monday.

That's fine.

TasmanTigerI have stayed here till now.

That's fine, but how about "I've been here up till now" or "I've been staying here until now" or just "I've been staying here since last Thursday".

TasmanTigerI'll have stayed there till Monday.

I don't think that makes sense, or at least it's confusing and unnecessary.
"I'LL HAVE stayed" means "I WILL HAVE stayed" which means that at some point in the future, you will have stayed until Monday. That's only relevant if you're specifically talking about some future date. You need to give the context, to explain how that sentence would be used.
For example, you could say something like

"By next Thursday, I WILL HAVE finished the draft, and I'll be working on the final version".

TasmanTigerI will stay there till Monday.

That's fine.

TasmanTigerI thought that 'from the present up to the future' can be shown as 'future perfect', but in this case it seems to be another story.

Sorry, I don't know what FUTURE PERFECT means, I only know the basics of grammar.
Hope that helps

TasmanTiger · Answer

What do you think about these ?

Will you have waited till I have finished this work?

Will you wait till I have finished this week ?

Both are possible , too?

The same theory is applied ?

TT

KrisBlueNZ · Answer

TasmanTigerWhat do you think about these?
Will you have waited till I have finished this work?
Will you wait till I have finished this week ?
Both are possible , too?
The same theory is applied?

"Will you HAVE WAITED TILL I have finished this work?" is grammatically correct but complicated. The only way it makes sense is when you're talking about a time in the future. I don't think I can explain the exact problem with this sentence.
"Will you wait till I have finished this work?" is grammatically correct, but I'd say "Will you wait till I finish this work?". It has the same meaning but is more concise. The time when I FINISH the work is the same time as the time when I HAVE FINISHED the work.

Sorry I can't explain this in terms of grammatical structure. It's just something that comes naturally to English speakers.

TasmanTiger · Answer

Thank you, CJ & KrisBlueNZ

My English is getting better, thanks to you.

Good day!

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