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Fustian, peccadillo, scordatura

Three words flapping around my mental attic this morning ...

fustian - it's a coarse cloth, yet it also means baroque speech. I would think the speech should derive from an ornate brocade ... how did the meaning made the jump?
peccadillo - I thought this was a quirk, like wearing a white shirt every day, but it's really a small sin, like dropping your leaves over your fence into your neighbor's yard. A crime must be implied ...

scordatura - is a musical term for tuning an instrument to suit the music (circa 1700s). Has this been done recently?
  

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[nq:1]Three words flapping around my mental attic this morning ... fustian - it's a coarse cloth, yet it also means ... - is a musical term for tuning an instrument to suit the music (circa 1700s).

  • [nq:1]Three words flapping around my mental attic this morning ...
  • fustian - it's a coarse cloth, yet it also means ...
  • - is a musical term for tuning an instrument to suit the music (circa 1700s).
  • [/nq] The solo violin in Saint-Saens Danse Macabre uses scordatura, retuning the E string to Eb.
  • I believe it is also used in some klezmer and other folk music such as some of that of Appalachia.
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[nq:1]Three words flapping around my mental attic this morning ... fustian - it's a coarse cloth, yet it also means ... - is a musical term for tuning an instrument to suit the music (circa 1700s). Has this been done recently?[/nq]
The solo violin in Saint-Saens Danse Macabre uses scordatura, retuning the E string to Eb.
I believe it is also used in some klezmer and other folk music such a
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[nq:2]scordatura - is a musical term for tuning an instrument to suit the music (circa 1700s). Has this been done recently?[/nq]
[nq:1]The solo violin in Saint-Saens Danse Macabre uses scordatura, retuning the E string to Eb. I believe it is also used in some klezmer and other folk music such as some of that of Appalachia.[/nq]
Add to this the solo violin in the second movement of Mahler's
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Robert Lieblich filted:
[nq:2]The solo violin in Saint-Saens Danse Macabre uses scordatura, retuning ... other folk music such as some of that of Appalachia.[/nq]
[nq:1]Add to this the solo violin in the second movement of Mahler's Fourth Symphony, used to represent Death. Heinrich Biber ... composer writes an E in the score, the soloist positions his finger for an E, and out comes an F.[/
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[nq:1]Robert Lieblich filted:[/nq]
[nq:2] Add to this the solo violin in ... his finger for an E, and out comes an F.[/nq]
[nq:1]For those of us on guitar, there's a little gadget called a capo that does the same thing..[/nq]
Problem with the capo (and they use them on banjos too) is that it raises all the strings at the same time (and it only works upwards). The scordatura effe
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[nq:1]Three words flapping around my mental attic this morning ... fustian - it's a coarse cloth, yet it also means baroque speech. I would think the speech should derive from an ornate brocade ... how did the meaning made the jump?[/nq]
OED says fustian was 'Formerly, a kind of coarse cloth made of cotton and flax' but is ' Now, a thick, twilled, cotton cloth with a short pile or nap, usually
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[nq:2]The solo violin in Saint-Saens Danse Macabre uses scordatura, retuningthe ... and other folk music such assome of that of Appalachia.[/nq]
[nq:1]Add to this the solo violin in the second movement of Mahler's Fourth Symphony, used to represent Death. Heinrich Biber ... different notes from those that would come out of a flute. Similar things go on in the other woodwind groups.[/nq]
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[nq:1]Three words flapping around my mental attic this morning ... fustian - it's a coarse cloth, yet it also means ... - is a musical term for tuning an instrument to suit the music (circa 1700s). Has this been done recently?[/nq]
There is an extended scordatura passage for solo violin in the second movement of Mahler's 4th symphony. The technique gives the violin a wonderfully macabre sound:
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[nq:2]Three words flapping around my mental attic this morning ... ... ornate brocade ... how did the meaning made the jump?[/nq]
[nq:1]OED says fustian was 'Formerly, a kind of coarse cloth made of cotton and flax' but is ' Now, a ... jump is like that of bombast which originally meant to 'stuff, pad, or fill out with cotton-wool, or the like.'[/nq]
For Shakespeare, a companion of "fustia
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[nq:1]For Shakespeare, a companion of "fustian" and "bombast" was "linsey-woolsey": But what linsey-woolsey hast thou to speak to us again? All's Well that Ends Well, IV. i. 13[/nq]
I thought that was a character in the movie Auntie Mame .

-Aaron J. Dinkin
Dr. Whom
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[nq:1]The solo violin in Saint-Saens Danse Macabre uses scordatura, retuning the E string to Eb. I believe it is also used in some klezmer and other folk music such as some of that of Appalachia. m.[/nq]
Some more examples, but note that the lack of standard tuning up through the early 17th C makes some of these tenuous:
(16th C)
J. A. Dalza's two "Pavana alla ferrarese in scordatura."

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